Astibus, I don't want to see you leave either. You have something to offer the forum. Before you leave...I would like to ask you to read my post and would like to ask you if you would stay IF some things changed here. Of course, this would need to be done by Gary...but I am sure Gary, being your friend, would appreciate your input on my thoughts concerning how to improve MDs. I have been here for a while...6 years with my current account, and I believe I had an account here prior to this one as well...but lost the info. Anyway, over the years I have seen this site go from Bandog to Neapolitan, to Bandog, to LGD to...the ___. I have seen posts discuss show breeding and form breeding. It cycles. When bandog topics or working dog topics come up, I find myself interested in participating in the site...but generally speaking have refrained from posting on show topics or topics about other breeds of interest, such as the LGD topics. Just not my cup of tea so to speak...so I don't frequent those topics. HOWEVER...that doesn't mean there isn't any common ground...for there is (I will come back to this later). When the topics I am interested in are not being made, I tend to disappear and lose interest. I think this is where you are at now...as the LGD topics are on decline here now.