If you don't want to believe me, fine. Don't. That is your choice. Keep your head in the sand. HOWEVER, if you wish to do that, then don't waste my time asking me questions...because I gave you an answer. Now, it is your job to do the research (investigate the data provided). I have spent the last several hours working with 10 different pups. Spent the day working with 7 different dogs. What have you done? Typed on a message board and wasted my time. That is why I call you an ostrich and that is why having a conversation with you is throwing pearls to swine. To me, you are just a frustrating irritant that has no desire to pursue the truth. I think the board was FAR BETTER when Brad Cofield was banned. Why the administration keeps letting you come back, I have no idea. In biology they have a term for your types. Parasite. You do nothing but harm the host (the board). You have never bred working dogs. You only destroy what others have created...which is why you never answered the questions I asked you on the last topic. Now...I have a lot of working dogs that require a ton of my time. I can't spend my life helping those that won't help themselves. The information has been provided. Why not review it and learn. Study the working dogs and their stats. Do that, and you will have your answer.