[quote1324357928=Vorax] [quote1324298221=cawkazn] thanks for your compliments, i have been told that before but..most ppl automatically bash my dogs once they hear bully before ever even seeing them and ramble on about what my dogs can and cannot due without ever even laying an eye on them and attempt to "educate" me on my dogs when they are basing all their knowledge off only hearing the name of the breed...bully i bred this dog. i used to be active in the whole bully world but did not like what i found or the scene really. ill post a few more pics of some of my dogs youy may like. i would like to do some protection work wqithg my dogs. 2 of them i belive would be good at it and have natural guarding instincts but as of now i dont have the free time to dedicate to it. the chain in pic is his tie out chain heres a 1st pick male off a litter of mine. he came off the male in the pic x a bully bitch with some presa added in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2AseruR0Tc&feature=related 8 weeks old here on the "flirt" pole check him at 1:14...lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACYCLU34pig&feature=related doesnt really do him justice but is the only thing i have managed to get on tape. [/quote1324298221] Well as you have seen in the Bully world they're nothing like your dogs. I would go out on a limb and say you have actually what Bandog breeders try to achieve and if your're breeding with Presa crosses then fair to say you're in the Bandog club. The pup is showing some real amazing potential at 8 weeks hanging like that . You have a great place to take your dogs out and was hilarious seeing you try to make it up the cliff after your dogs, did they ever get a rabbit? Have you measured his head and height at shoulders? How much does he weigh? You got a pm. [/quote1324357928] i havnt measured his head or height. they have caught a rabbit, a skunk, and sometimes birds. i was trying to make that same argument a while back that "some" bullies could be considered bandogges but no one agreed with me. the thing is there are so many different types of bullies. the short low ones are mixed with bulldogs, but the extremely large ones which was the craze not too long ago was to have the biggest dogs possible...anyways the biiiig bullies are usually a combo of pit x sometype of mastiff....aka a bandogge. here is an example of a bully that could also be called a bandogge IMO. obvious mastiff outcross http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqhEDR85BJM also take a look at this guys dogs...they are the xxl bullies (mastiff outcrosses)... some of his dogs are nice.....some others not so good http://www.biggeminikennels.com/album_male_2.php