Gary, I understood something completely different in brazillianbandogge message, and he confirmed what I was thinking in his last message. He said if a dog has a bad score in the x-ray exame of the hips, there's no problem to reproduce him if he can walk. That's craziness! Of course the dysplasia score shouldn't be the only criterium to choose a working dog to reproduce. But it's a fundamental criterium. I can see very few motives to reproduce a dog with severe hips dysplasia, even if he can work very well. We don't have until now a good understand of pain in animals and it's completely possible that a dog can feel pain e still work. This discourse of "we don't need the FCI approval" sounds more like an excuse to not following basic rules, such the hips dysplasia exam, than a real try to do something new in dog breeding.