[quote="OBI1"] I think everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves and I'm begining to think that there are people who totally depend on this dogs or the politics and economics around it for their daily bread, if not why on earth will there be such bile and bitterness??? I wish you people would invest such energy in doing truly good things for the breed and not faffing around websites slagging each other. I think alot of us enthusiasts who are truly seeking to learn are sick and tired of these **cow droppings** SESSIONS!!! STOP IT YOU ALL :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:[/quote] As far as this having to do with $$ I would say you're way off base. JC did have a male yrs ago that sired a litter, but has not had a litter that know of since. And Nikki's last litter was over 15 months ago.