OBI I totally agree with you... I think its sad that most Neo' people have a hard time getting along. In my opinion its because of the passion that we put fourth and what we believe in or don't. This is why Gary and I started www.neoowners.com A place only to talk DOGS..Any thread that is not about them is deleted...Hehehe had my first deleted thread earlier in the week. I feel that if we as a group put our efforts into fixing the breed our dogs would be in alot better of a place.