Brian has great dogs. Angel MK9 is telling you about "finders" many dogs also hunt off the ute like he said as well. Their hunting is much more diverse than ours. They have so much more land to utilize. Their dogs also must be, stock and roo proof in many of the areas that they hunt. Aussie piggin is probably the most exciting around! Thanks for the input MK9. I have had a bit of luck with Bully Grey breeders since our last talk. I must admidt even though i dont hunt him Sherman would make a hell of a lugger!