U.S. Bull Arabs

I am happy with pits and dogos.

That would be fine to get some Bull Arabs in the US if you were going to use them for pig dogs, but be aware you can buy some decent pups here for $50, that is about $38 US :?:

Wow... that cheap? Are they breeding true?

Dragonmark, there are a lot more people hunting with dogs over here, and in different areas and with a different approach, so in each area they breed for a different type. The formula may be a little different, so if by true, you mean do they hunt well in their conditions yes, if you mean do they look like "show" peas in a pod , no. And no one cares, some lines do conform more as a look alike article, but in general they are purpose bred, the better lines will fetch more of course, but say up to $250

I wish we could hunt with dogs in my state. I have to travel to west bubble freak to get on hogs!

unfortunately I got a dogo as soon as the rest of America became aware of a ferral hog problem. You may see the price jump another $1000 because of the bandwagon effect.

Do bull arabs bark on trail? http://www.usdac.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=627&start=21&posts=25

no, made up of bull terrier, pointer and sighthound, no baying dogs.

MK9 can you tell me a little bit about hunting with Bull Arabs in Australia? Do you use a hound for baying? Do you walk the bulls in or do they run and find their own hogs? Angel

Angel, dont use hounds, take the dogs to an area likely to have hogs, then they are let loose so they can either wind scent or hit a warm trail, if you are covering a lot of area, one will be left loose in the pick up and he will leap out if he winds a hog. Tony

If they dont bay how do you find the dogs when they catch? angel

wow those dogs seem awesome, i love reading about pig dogs/boar dogs yada yada. any other good literature on these? love this picture.

Angel it is real quiet out where we hunt, so you usually get a bearing when they first hit up. Then we haul in that direction :oops: the more technos use tracking collars. Tony

Be sure to hit us with some more hunting reports.

[quote=boomslang]Just trying to get an Idea of how many of you would be interested in Bull Arabs, or Bully greyhounds. Should a breeder pop up here in the states.[/quote] I am absolutely interested in a pup if it's parents look anything like Brian's stock. Incredible musculature...

gday Boom, whereabouts are the Bully Grey folks you got onto? Here is a Clip of a friends dog, he is 14 mnths on his 3rd pig, hits him one on one, he is by Grim out of a pure Dane bitch, he does well to hold a 226lb young boar early in his career http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvJ7LQlEmcg

My father who was born in 1919 in Texas used to use similar dogs. His family bred bulldogs(pitbull type dogs ) and greyhounds. They used them on coyotes. The old man said the dogs would usually catch them within about 1/4 mile. Coyotes can really haul the mail when they want to so those were fast dogs. He said that the dogs would hit em at a run and throw them in the air . Breaking the coyotes neck.

i breed a few bullygreyhounds and that includes the 2 in the photo on the previous page. :wink:

[url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=454249&c=500&z=1"][/url]

Now thats a fast looking catch dog! aa

Yes that really is a good looking dog. Good musclature and enough bone to keep it from being fragile. It looks like it could really haul butt

What is lamping? Where I come from it means chillin out, relaxing. aa

thanks , that was a bitch i bred. she was killed a few years ago on a good hog. this is another of my dogs, he is only 9 mths old and catching already. he weighs around 45kg .[url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=487862&c=500&z=1"][/url]

another bitch.[url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=466087&c=500&z=1"][/url].

out looking. [url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=464677&c=500&z=1"][/url]

[url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=361880&c=500&z=1"][/url]

young susie.[url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=476708&c=500&z=1"][/url]

one of the founding dogs of my line "ned" in the 1970s.[url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=476712&c=500&z=1"][/url]

Thanks Frosti, that is a nice line of dogs nice type and workers by the go of them could you tell me how they are to get along with, temperament and brains wise ? appreciate your comments :D

no worries . at home they are a fairly laid back sort of dog that live for 2 things , a pat or a feed. they are not dog or people aggresive but they dont like sharing food with each other. as you can see they are built to run and they love it . in the bush they cover lots of ground but normaly keep in sight unless they scent a pig . they have no fear when catching and wont bark. they are a fairly inteligent but can be stuburn and need a firm hand, i think this is from the english bull terrier but they also have the gentleman type attitude of the greyhound. they dont have any inherant health problems .

thanks, exactly what l was thinking, where are you located ? :?:

i am in victoria

Thanks ... why would you spotlight? The dogs will find with or without light. I got a head lamp with a red light and white light. We used the red light so as not to scare the prey while walking to the bay. aa

Oldskool, down here after harvest we spotlight pigs on the wheat stubble, 1000's of acres of flat country where the pigs come out to forage on the leftover spilt grain. The more sighthound dogs are the most efficient at this, once they get to following the light, they ignore evrything else and once sighted in, can really travel to the hog. You can get large numbers of hog quickly during this time. Those dogs of frostis are typical of the type best at it, also great to watch when you put up a hare out there, they test the turning and control of speed a dog has :!:

thats right mck9 , when spotlighting crops you need to see the pigs up ahead long before anydog could scent them, these pigs are realy switched on to the sound of an aproaching vehicle and would be of the field and miles into the thick stuff . you have to keep a bit of speed up and try to cut off their excape. my dogs excell in this type of hunting where speed is needed with a smash and grab style way of handling a good pig before they can hit cover , how ever the majority of the hunting that i do is on foot during the day and in heavy cover and they are very good at this style of hunting to.[url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=361877&c=500&z=1"][/url]

Thank you for the lesson guys. Beautiful dogs! angel

they throw very true to type.these dogs are the result of over 30 yrs of line breeding, i dont recreate the breeding i just breed the line . i have never gone back to bull terrier. they dont need it, some times they can be to hard. one thing i have to watch is they seem to be getting bigger over the years. i try not to breed to big but some of the males have got up to 55-59 kg in working condition. i dont like them that big and try to breed from dogs that keep the size down a bit.

[quote=Tonedog]Yeah from what I gather about bullgreys they shouldn't really be considered "bullterrier x greyhound" anymore than dogo argentinos should be considered "cordoba fighting dog x dogue de bordeaux x etc". If you just cross a bullterrier with a greyhound you won't end up with one of these dogs, it will only be a little over half the size for starters. They're really their own unrecognised breed. It's not so much the bullterrier/greyhound cross which made them, more the thirty years of breeding for boarhunting performance. (correct me if I'm wrong frosti) [/quote] you are spot on tone dog .some people have tried to cross a bullterrier with a greyhound and they come out nothing like they expect. its a long road to get them to look anything like these dogs do now. another hurdle to doing this is finding an english bull terrier that could be compared to the ones that were used in this line 30yrs ago. im not sure if they still exist . i dont like them getting to big because they start to loose the running style dog build and start looking like a big muscle dog :roll: they dont move as easy . the ones i like are perfect build for handling pigs and they just dont need the extra size to do this. the bigger dogs can knock up quicker in the heat .

They're beautiful dogs and apparently very effective hunters. Can someone tell me what the main difference betw. Bull Arabs and BullyGreys is besides the former having Pointer blood? Why would one favor/chose either breed over the other? A lot of American Bulldogs have been bred so over-sized, they're basically mastiffs. They have a lot of stopping power, but not the speed to catch what they want to stop. I've heard of guys crossing Greyhounds to them to get a healthier, more athletic dog, but I really think crossing a large AB w/ a BullyGrey would make an amazing dog.

i suppose they are a similar type dog bred for the same need , hunting pigs. there are not that many lines of bullygreyhounds compared with bullarabs, the bullarab lines can look totaly differant from each other . bullarabs and bullygreyhounds have one main similarity , they both put pork on your ute :shoot