Yeah from what I gather about bullgreys they shouldn't really be considered "bullterrier x greyhound" anymore than dogo argentinos should be considered "cordoba fighting dog x dogue de bordeaux x etc". If you just cross a bullterrier with a greyhound you won't end up with one of these dogs, it will only be a little over half the size for starters. They're really their own unrecognised breed. It's not so much the bullterrier/greyhound cross which made them, more the thirty years of breeding for boarhunting performance. (correct me if I'm wrong frosti) [blockquote]i try not to breed to big but some of the males have got up to 55-59 kg in working condition. i dont like them that big and try to breed from dogs that keep the size down a bit.[/blockquote] Just curious frosti, do you not like them that big because they don't perform as well (maybe overheat faster) or because you'd rather have slightly smaller dogs around the house for other reasons (like feeding or ???)?