So if you found the EM, better than "most" by your standards- what makes you think a few mastino breeders can't find mastini with all of these things. Since people like Starr, Heidi and I are "tied" to a breed, we have done the research and spent the time finding the mastini that meet our standards. We can have it all! Most mastini you see on the street are scatter bred, pet shop kind of dogs. People say it's a neo, but it's not a true mastino. Big difference. I have seen trainers say they have trained them, when I see them they are shite. I have had a few in basic obedience classes that I attended with mine. They were scatterbred shite with questionable temperaments. The new educational materials that the USNMC Education Committee has just released (myself included) has the first 11 pages based solely on breed history and function. It also states cleary- "Main folds and wrinkles are NOT found in the dogs upper legs or his hindquarters. -The dewlap should not extend below the posternum." It does go on the show quite a few examples of "overdone" dogs. We are trying hard to make people realize when too much is too much and have these dogs penalized. No, a dog should not fang himself while eating. It's grossly overdone if it does.