[quote=LeeRobinson]In one sentence you say I am right and another you say I am dense. For the record, I live in Mississippi, but I am not FROM Mississippi. I was born in TX, but throughout my 38 years...I was raised in Illinois for 27 years, also lived in New York and Ohio...and travelled to 40 states in the US...and I have been to the opposite side of the world (Australia). I have spent most of my life learning and developing my knowledge around dogs and wildlife. And, you are right about most EM...but again, I didn't use "most." I used the best I could find. And, when comparing best to best...I found the EM to be the one on top. It isn't about "putting down other breeds" but acknowledging the source of success. Although rare, good EM have been a primary source of this success. No one knows everything...but...Been there, done that. I am always willing to learn, but I will base my opinions off my knowledge and experience before internet "claims or discussion" but never show dogs of real abilities. Don't tell me how great the Neapolitan is. Just show me. Simple enough...as I have no loyalty to any mastiff type. I only have loyalty to use the best I can find. Period.[/quote] Lee I said you're being dense because you are generalizing a breed you know very little about and only go on your limited experiences and testing of bullshit stock and what you see on MD. To say you compared the best of the best OEM's to the best of the best Neo's is hilarious to me. I am still dying to know the stock you tested...because I KNOW it was far, far from being a Mastino at all. I have no no doubt you tested quality OEMs and this is not a knock on your program as you have good, capable dogs.