[quote="LeeRobinson"] [quote=natimastino]LMAO Lee, you called me SHE?? Dude Im a dude and a big and manly one at that. Lee I dont think you know what a 'pure' Mastino is at all. Why are you certain of it that some where pure? Not many people have any idea. Put it this way; when you refer to the American Pitbull Terrier/southern pitbulldogge what dogs come to mind as being a 'pure', true to the core essence of the breed?? Hmmm... maybe Plumbers Alligator, Chinaman, or perhaps the Sorrel dogs you are fond of. You're not expecting me to believe your buddy had real, unadulterated, old world Italian blood mastiffs on his hands in Mississippi?? (A state which I love, BTW)[/quote] Sorry for the identity mistake. I saw "Nati" and assumed Natilie. My bad. As far as knowing what a pure Mastini is...well...come on dude. I have been around the block a little, and am very familiar with what a pure Neapolitan is. And, just to enlighten you...the world is no longer that big. Anything is available to those willing to pay for it. Tosa is considerably rarer than Neapolitans...and we have evaluated several of them (junk and REAL ones) as well...not just the one Tosa I imported. But...on another note, let me ask YOU a question...since you are here to "defend" the Neapolitan (which I am not attacking in this post by saying I prefer the EM as I find them more capable...but just offering my experience and education)...like I said...but, let me ask you a question. Let's say for arguement's sake that you could find a Neapolitan with good temperament, drives, stabilty, and even decent agility and...heck, I will be generous and give your perfect example stamina too (even though I have found these traits to generally be lacking by comparison to quality EM)...do you think your example of Neapolitan would be as powerful as a quality EM?[/quote] Lee, do you honestlty believe the Japanese are lining up to give Americans and Westerners their best Tosas for a pittance when you have Billionaire businessmen vying for the best stock?? No, youre very wrong, not everything is available for money in this world and especially fittest examples of Mastino. The owner of a famous Ponzano stud dog was offered I believe $200,000 (in the 1980's) and respectfully declined. My friend whom re-introduced me to Mastino doesn't even sell many puppies and they are absolutley going to people who he personally knows on a very intimate basis and if he doesnt find the absolutely perfect fit, he is glad to take all the pups if necessarry for he is jealous and guarded like most old Mastino breeders who keep the real thing. And dont think you're going to be getting a pick of the litter or anything. Take what is gifted for a fair price or get the f'out. Its about the dogs, always. You wont find the old timers posting on MD or guiding you to there websites and pimping there dogs out like a traded commidity. As for if an EM is stronger than my ideal Mastino....I know there are some strong EM's out there but I will bet the farm on a select few Mastino I know of as being some of the most powerful dogs to walk the earth, IMO. Im 6'5' 280 or so and have played football my whole life (almost played pro) and have Greco-Roman wrestled and have done various other weight training and physically demanding activities that require brute strength. No man can match the raw power of a serious Mastino when he is locked in on something. Downright frightening to be honest and you begin to understand why the real Mastino is not popular or available to any idiot.