Nikki, of course those that are dedicated to research the Neapolitan breed can find examples that are better than most. But, I didn't just test "typical" or "typey" Neapolitans. I worked some good examples of the breed and have found a few to offer potential...but simply for MY GOALS the EM did everything the Neapolitan did and did it better (more power, more confidence, more drive, more soundness, better stamina, better agility, more stability, less seperation anxioty, and more size). I do like the short hair of the Neapolitan though. I appreciate that the Neapolitan breeders are beginning to take a stand against overdone Neapolitans...and are working to improve the breed. IMO that is GREAT! However, my findings of the EM being a better choice for our goals isn't solely based on an assumption that all Neapolitans are overdone. I was never interested in working the overdone ones that had problems walking or seeing. The Neapolitans we worked did not appear that way. I also know other working dog enthusists that I trust that also have worked Neapolitans and have done so over a multitude of decades...and generally speaking their findings were in line with my own which does reinforce my observations. I am not saying all Neapolitans are bad dogs. In fact, even though I think they could be greatly improved I do find the breed interesting and see potential within them...even though I found the EMs to be better for our goals. I found many Neapolitans to lack in the stability department. Some lacked confidence. Many bitches were very small as well. And a friend warned me of their small teeth which I found odd...until I began looking and although many had good teeth, many indeed did have suprisiingly small teeth. And even the ones that were not overdone still lacked the power, agility, and drive I AM LOOKING FOR. Some people are happy with them. That is great. I at this time am not interested enough to put them on an equal field of that as a good EM. Because when I compared best to best...the EM's simply faired better. Now as far as poor EM specimens go...absolutly they do exist...but that is not what I am talking about here. I am only talking about best to best. On that level, the EMs IMO are simply at a superior playing field. I am curious though...what Neapolitan breeder out there in YOUR opinion is producing the best Neapolitans out there for someone interested in a "working class Mastini?"