[quote=NAK101]Nope, I never played games of tug and took pictures of it with my Komondorok, never had the desire to either. You got me there Harold.[/quote] And you never worked sheep with your dog either. In other words, you were willing to change what other people created. According to your previous posts, you shouldn't have any right to distroy what others created. ___________________ Nati, LOL. You think the best Mastini are as actually as capable as the best EMs. ROTFLMAO! Keep dreaming. I hope you don't loose that farm. Some people I guess just like to keep their head in the sand. Of course some dogs are never for sell, but that doesn't mean equal quality isn't available. Here is a news flash. Litermates to nearly any line is available anywhere. Sure we all have our favorites and we all have dogs that are not for sell...but anyone who has bred dogs for any length of time knows picking a the "best pup" out of a litter at 8 weeks doesn't always prove to be the best adult. I have kept entire litters before because of this, still that blood has become available to the public due to repeat breedings, second generatoin offspring, etc. And, some times "top notch" offspring are sold not only for money, but because of respected relationships with those who have proven to be serious breeders in other countries...as acknowledging and respecting their work. But, any more time on this subject is likely a waste. The difference between you and me is you are "defending" the Neapolitan. So be it. I am not defending any breed. I am just open to accept the facts as they are. If a Neapolitan was even close to superior, I would use them...but the truth is I don't use them because not only are the NOT superior, but they are indeed inferior performers...and I accept things for where they lay. And if you think my experience is off MD, well...that even further illustrates your delusion. My dogs speak for themselves andyou are welcome to visit. See, I am not subjective and biased in my research. I am objective and open minded...that way I can accept the truth and use the best so it can serve me well. I have nothing to prove. Instead, I have a goal to accomplish...and I would say I am living that goal.