[quote=NAK101]Harold, you never saw my Komondorok, so you have ZERO basis on wich to form an opinion. Would my Camilla have guarded sheep? Hell if I know, BUT she did keep me and my new baby safe while living in downtown Detroit so to me she passed any "real life" test. I loved that bich, I still think about her every day. Her passing has left a huge whole in my heart that will never be filled. R.I.P. Tzimisce Barom Kelet. Secondly, I am done with this thread.[/quote] You admitted you never worked your dogs, then get upset when I say you bred a non-working dog. Guess what Brad, they were not worked...so therefore they were non-working specimens. Could they have? Would they have" How would you know? How would I know? However, they were not, so I followed up with a truthful fact. You don't like it, but it is fact. Look at my post above about the husky. The comment that breeding non-working dogs is the way working breeds are distroyed. The statement makes so much sense, that even in your lack of ability to reason you still see the logic in that statement. Now as far as you saying I have no basis of this reason...well, actually I do. You said you didn't work her. In fact, you now even state you had a "hell if I know" opinion of if she was a even capable of being working dog or not. That means she was a non-working dog. Does it mean she couldn't work? Well, "hell if I know" (LOL). Maybe she could and maybe she couldn't...but regardless of "could of" or "should of" the fact is she wasn't worked...and therefore is a non-working specimen. To MAINTAIN a working breed, one has to test the stock to remove non-working specimens. That is the ONLY WAY to preserve working breeds. You didn't do this...yet you bred him. Therefore, you promoted (again) the idea of ruining someone else's creation. To tell others not to ruin the work of others (even when they are not), but then to go out and do exactly that yourself is hypocracy. BTW, living with someone isn't the same a protecting someone. To know if a dog is capable of guard work, one has to test for that too. And, Of course you are done with this thread...you were just intellectually spanked. Think next time before you speak. Or...better yet, get a better opinion...one that is factually based.