[quote1267756927=o_dosa_neo] point i was trying to make hugo is....when buying a dog, cat, bird , fish.....especially at 8 weeks....ive always thought it to be pretty much a crap shoot what the end product would be...sorry for the sarcasm...sorry bout the way things turned out...i didnt expect you'd be sueing........ johnnyO [/quote1267756927] No problem at all Johnny but consider the matter from this point of view: when you buy a race horse because it is a race horse and the seller sells it as a race horse, you expect the animal to run. You cannot claim if the horse does not become a champion but you can claim if the horse cannot even run. The same goes with a guard dog. Imagine you need protection for your home and a Rotty breeder propose you to sell you a pup under the understanding that it is a guard dog so you buy it in that understanding but at the end that dog cannot guard anything, then you have a case. However I am not thinking in sueing the breeder that is why I suggest not to talk about complaints. hugo PS The pup was not 8 weeks BTW, but 12 or so.