i wasn't specifically talking about in japan...but regardless...the zero human aggressive as in general handling of the tosa etc...this i will agree but wasn't what i'm referring to...protection/guarding(home/family) is a totally different set of circumstances... a tosa is used elsewhere as a guardian & its also frequently mentioned in regards to the tosa(maybe not used over there so much)...heres a couple of quotes from a decendant of a family generation of tosa in japan... Hirose says: "I have certain fears about the Tosa outside Japan. In the United States and Europe, many people see the possibilities and appreciate the qualities of the Tosa as a companion and guard dog, all while remembering it's history as a fighting dog... His grandmother, after the second world War, used Tosas to protect her cattle because of theft due to widespread hunger... akita...in its so called history or anything really about the akita states...its also a guard...(but a lame one)...and just to point out if an akita wasn't human aggressive...it wouldn't consistantly be in the top 5 dog ban breeds now would it??...i've had 2 akitas...one i put down for that "zero" human aggressiveness bite he did to someones face that need many stitches... plus the ja version or american akita is a created 20th century dog...that actually has no purpose at all...but the various dogs used to create it...were hunters,fighters,and guard dogs...but not the actual akita as we know it... and i'm not even going to even get into that first paragraph you wrote... ovcharkaboy [blockquote]First of all if you are in a situation where you constantly have to defend your life, figure some stuff out and fix it. If you are depending for any dog to save your life you are a dumbass. If anyone is going to kill me they are not going to do it with thier bare hands and a gun will defeat any dog in less than a second. [/blockquote]