--------- ...test your dogs or risk everything just because you don't like that. -------- Is there any proof, that the best fighters are the best in predator control? You see, there is continuous discussion running on Russian forums about this "testing". I follow it for a long time, and I may assure Wolf, that there are many aspects of the thing, which were never mentioned here. I do not mean humane aspects of the fight itself, and want to omit everything coming from difference of the cultures. I talk to many breeders, I talk to the people living all their lives in Central Asia and in Caucasus region. And as a result I get strong beliefe, that LGD fights, now called dog testing, is not a real life thing, but just a game with weak background. What was once a pure entertaiment during people gatherings (and at that gatherings they fight everything - male sheep, young boys, young horses, dogs... ) became in 80's a sport, and then professional sport, with tournaments, winners, and high stakes. Only then the word "testing" appears, to justify all system. That is the history as people remember it in last 3-4 decades. Trying to reach deeper, I did not find any historical evidence of dog fights being a system in any Central Asian country - no tales, no written sources, no stories from travelers. And no evidence that it had any zootechnical value, as evaluation for working abilties. And no proof that the winners were preffered for breeding. Common for any "wolf-killing" dogs was wolf baiting, trapped of wounded wolfs were used for it. And even in this favorable situation dogs were badly wounded and sometimes killed - but that was real thing (and the only real test for predator control work). So, from what I found apeears, that "teating" of LGD's was invented in last 2 decades and have NO old tradition in Central Asia. I would be glad to hear any information pro and contra , as well as historical facts about such "testing" in other regions of the world. Respectfully, PES P.S. May be we should take this discussion to "LGD and predator control"? Because Serbian Defence Dog is not an LGD and the subject for this testing?