brindle, I don't know if you are aware, but there is competition for working dogs (especially german terriers) in fox and badger catching in their earth gapes,their natural habitat, and it is done under the FCI rulles. This can be very bloody and often some dogs stay desabled for rest of their lives, badger can messed them up prety bad. When people go to such competition with their dogs, nobody call them morons, and still, there is big chance that dog will not survive. :?: Testing of the old shepherd breeds is not a big deal, when you have that in mind what I've just wrote up there. That is the only way for shephardfolks to see what do they have in the yard, is that dog capable to owerpower predators or not, and they have to be shure that he is, otherways, if they do not test it before they go to the mountain pastures with their flocks, they risk to lose not only their dogs and sheeps but even their own life. So, if you are asking me am I OK with that kind of test fights, my answer is: YES I AM! Aleksa