just wanted to clarify my question. I don't want to give the impression that I was offeded by "ghetto" or anything. I don't want to stir up some stupid argument. My question was sincere. I'm asking because as an american now living in central europe I find the type of person to type of dog match up here is completely different then what I am used to seeing in the states. If you want to find the big bulking"tuff guy" useless "pit bull" type dog here,you almost have to go to the rich suburby part of the town or city.These dogs are almost always the least socialized and they're usually the ones that are the biggest problem off the leash. Anytime you hear about some kid getting bit or mauled on the news it's more often than not a child in some well off (or at least "better" off family) and most of the time it's the families own dog that is involved. However the people who would be considered "ghetto" here (poor czechs and roma or gypsies as they're known) are almost never seen with bully breeds. if the have a dog at all it's usually some small little fluffy thing. So you you have these ghetto tuff guys walking around with toy poodles (which is a bit strange), and the yuppies are the ones with the bully "man eaters". I wonder why that is. Anyway just food for thought. be well people chris