[quote=faughs]….the dogs where seen in Northern iraq close to border with Turkey. But as you explained in another post to me there are a number of shepard breeds in turkey[/quote] Of course it is possible that Kangal dogs have been seen in northern Iraq near the Turkish border – dogs do not know borders and shepherds move too and bring their dogs. Though there many other life stock guardian type of dogs that look like the Kangal – these differ both in type and names depending on what region they are from. You are able to read the different profiles and check out the galleries here on Molosser Dogs. Oktug, I am just interested in knowing what you have to say in regard to that the Kangal does not originate from other dog breeds – how do you know? What should it originate from? Directly from the wolf?