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[quote=HalfSAM] In America perhaps. 8)[/quote] 1)You're being Silly: In America, Cane Corsos are commonly spuriosly bred, but the Italian product is simply a more stabilized cross-dog. 2)Therefore, it is not the idealized breed ALV-CC spoke of. [quote=ALV-CC]Badams, Corsos are a recreated breed so other bully breeds were used back when to add more genetic diversity. Since 1986 there has been a standard approved by ENCI and FCI and for over 20 years the Cane Corso Italiano has bred true are pure and its qualities have remained. Some unethical breeders still cross them, but they are not Cane Corso Italiano. In the U.S. a lot of the Corsos you see or hear about are not Corsos but bandogs that resemble the Corso. Great specimens of each breed are hard to find, even APBTs. But good specimens of the Cane Corso Italiano have the drive and the characteristics of a CCI. No neet for pitbull blood. That would be polluting a breed that for over 20 years has bred true and to standard. If you want I can point you in the direction of breeders that have consistently from generation to generation titled their dogs in Sch., PP, Weight Pull, and other sports showing how the desired traits of the Corso (can't speak for other bulldogs) can be preserved and have been preserved. That way you can see how the APBT is absolutely unnecessary and it would be damaging to the breed. If I wanted to create a bandog from a Corso to "improve" or "preserve" its drives, I would probably use an AB as opposed to a APBT. ALV[/quote] -You're basically conceding to Badams. -If introducing Neo and Boxer blood produced a finer specimen, that's fine as long as you're honest about it. -Your dog is a bandog, too, then. -Pit bull blood makes dogs better. Since we're on about performance rather than romance, there's no fault in adding pit bull blood. [quote=Wolf"][quote="badams]A dog considered a Corso would have been any large boned ,fierce,wide chested and powerful animal that was protective of its home and suspicious of strangers. Sounds like a Bandog to me.[/quote] Just like any bull-terrier type dog with varying degrees of bulldog, terrier, retriever or cattledog blood that looked the part and was willing to scrap and did well in the box was considered a Pit Bull in the old days. People didn't care about anything except performance and whatever outcross resulted in a good product was good enough. Doesn't that sound like a Bandog to you?[/quote] All dogs come from some other dog, just like all dogs come from the wolf. The bull terrier is, as its name implies, a product of the bulldog and terriers, but it fits a specific goal. I also highly doubt that in achieving that hard to realize goal, other breeds were introduced. Nothing being achieved by trying to inject ambiguity into pit bull ancestry. Breeders didn't try to create anything ambiguous and the heritage is well documented and simple. IMO, Southern Italian working dogs seem wonderful, but had history had its course, they'd have been displaced by AB's and APBT's. Besides, to me, a Bandog sounds like mastiff type dog used in England for centuries until centuries ago, or a Pit bull crossed to an English mastiff or Neopolitan mastiff for the sake of protection.