[quote=NickP]Is there anyone out the that is trying to return the boxer to its working state circa 1900?? just like the English Bulldog is being slowly returned? There are a lot of health issues with boxers these days and I was just wondering?[/quote] Just for your records i puit here some pictures from the most influencial boxer foundations. They have English Bulldog on his blood so as a dog from France (Alt's Flora First) that i beleive was a Old Doguin De Bordeaux from those times. Bosko Imergrun - 24 http://www.molosserdogs.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=25120 Meta VD Passenger -30 http://www.molosserdogs.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&pos=25121 First Boxer Show . Foundation Boxers in Germany http://www.molosserdogs.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=25119 Pedigree Showing the Boxer x Bulldog Influence http://www.molosserdogs.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=25122">