[quote=lynnicks]Not really harsh comments considering another member who bred HER dogs and sold HER pups from a mixed breeding and got a lot of stick about doing the breeding in the first place. Even though all the pups were healthy heavy and mother looked great. I am just fed up with hearing 'working dogs' so that leaves the excuse to underfeed and then advertise pups. If the dog was shown seperate from the pups it would be shame on you etc., I find it insulting so Im sure members who breed working dogs must feel much the same. Yes a dog looses weight when having pups and need that extra to maintain her weight, that is not the point. Even the poorest hunter will tose his beloved companion part of the kill as a thank you for helping him feed himself. Different strokes for different folks and understanding different cultures is much easier today with the help of the internet. If you can afford the internet.....say no more.. Sad really sad[/quote] She is not my dog , so i cant impose the owner to breed his own dog in my way. I dont agree with the style of the owner of these female, but the farmers in all over the world have different ideas compare with urban way to live.