Yea but every dog that is terrier x mastiff cant be called a presa or a bandog. There is more to these mixes than a body and head type. For example color, I speak for myself when I say I' not trying to have presas go down the same road as pits. All these exotic colors and what nots. Lets stick to the standard when it comes to color, temperament, body, head, and all the other things that make a breed a breed! Arbaco was a handsome dog, just not a presa canario at all. Then people try to use this throw back crap as an excuse for throwing these out of standards pups, its a giving that sometime there will be throwbacks, depending on how far these lines go back. Because there are some line you cant trace back with a pencil on paper! Also no one knows what was really in the 'original' presas because they went bye bye, but what the recreation was supposed to do was use certain dog breeds that had resembled the dogs of old.