[quote=jaboa]Ragdog , Thats why people should use the grey matter , the almighty put between their ears , when choosing a dog ...Why ruin the rustic breeds we have by breeding a more socially acceptable quasi-type.....Just so Joe Blow Yuppie scumbucket can have a coversation piece :noway[/quote] Joboa, I couldn't agree more. Joe Blow Yuppte wouildn't find the rustic breeds appealing. Look what they have done to the Labador and Golden Retriever! :wink: