Thanks Jessica Its a shame its so long and most probably wont read it. Too many people get wrapped up in 'self' and dont consider they can actually learn something from other breeders whether they like what they are doing or not. No one is the 'perfect' breeder but shutting out others opinions is no good for the breed. One pointer which you retrieve from a site could be the building block for you getting it right within your own programme. 7 good points and something to consider when dealing with people. Keeping an open mind goes a long way. Great site altogether Lynn