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[quote=kbcouch]ill tell you whats happening to our dog breeds , its called dog shows, and the lukewarm fools who intentionally breed out ANY FORM OF DOGGEDNESS , in a dog , they need cats. they have ruined the terriers, and are ruining the mastifffs now. if you like dogs , and not vet bills and retards with fur coats , than boycott show dog lines.[/quote] ADD to that the BS "WORKING" MUTTs lines the metal morons dogs , that are only good for biting a sleeve and turning biscuts into manure, breed by trailer trash that brag about "PREFORMANCE TESTING", hyping bowleged, displastic dogs with bad hearts. All because they are too cheap to do medical screening. The one's with made non-sence names thios bulldog & that bulldog etc., etc. No newbie the answer is eliminate "Show Lines" and "Working Lines" completely. There should only be one "[color=red]CORRECT[/color] Line PERIOD. Complete dedication to the standard IN BOTH FORM & FUNCTION.