[quote1326776060=LeeRobinson] [quote=Astibus] After a brief moment she turned around in disgust and walked away; none of the wolves even acknowledged his presence there after. [/quote] Unless you have mental telepathy, you are left to assume that is what the wolf thought...and personally, I think you are personifying the wolf too much. Now, if instead you would say the wolf wasn't concerned about your dog...that might be more rational. [/quote1326776060] OMG!! Are we really going to argue over literary inference and metaphorical speech, just to make a point?? LOL No, I do not have telepathic powers ( .... but if your head just slammed hard on your desk, I may have telekinetic powers lol). Nor did the wolf sign a notarized document declaring its emotional state of mind. So I can't know for sure. She was simply very eager to approach my dog before, and after said intense stare her interest went abruptly down to zero (appearing grossly turned off). The other wolves followed a bit the development from the distance and after she returned none of them granted my dog a second look. As if my dog wasn't there anymore. I used "disgust" loosely here, but assumed that was allowed in casual prose. Your overly detail obsessed responses sometimes remind me of Sheldon Cooper in The Big Bang Theory. LOL [quote1326776060=LeeRobinson] 3. Science is not a person. It is a process. Anyone can call themself a scientist if they perform the right practice...and anyone that does NOT use that practice properly isn't being really scientific. [/quote1326776060] Yeah, but these guys aren't anyones! They're on top of their field. [quote1326776060=LeeRobinson] [quote1326766427=Astibus] Coming to think of it it's never been easy to accept a concept that puts humans further into their place. (i.e that the world doesn't revolve around humans' earth, that humans weren't special at all but evolved such as any rat, horse or insect did. That genetics isn't as trivial as we initially thought it is. The world of history is paved with scientific evidence chopping down the inflated self-perception of humans.) [/quote1326766427] The world doesn't revolve around humans...but we have certainly dominated the world more so than any other species...and via artificial selection we have certainly developed an inter-dependent relationship with nearly every species we have domesticated...and via artificial selection, we have even mutated those species to display behaviors to unproportionate levels that would never be seen in nature because it serves our interest. [/quote1326776060] Mhm, now go ahead and try the same with say cats. And suddenly our genius and world domination won't help us crap to repeat the "artificial selection" in creating the same diversity that we apparently performed on dogs. The reason? It's called genetic plasticity with unusually high levels in canine genomes. Now was it US who designed their genomes in such ways that they allowed for dramatic alteration of dog phenotypes? Or did we just somehow stumble on it, because canines "offered" themselves for a symbiotic relationship with humans? What do you think?! (rhetorical question as this has been already conclusively answered by scientists)