[quote=EsqCaucasians"][quote="Platz] Now going forward you know for a fact that you can not physically control that male dog when it goes into defence mode. So how are you going to deal with him in public now?[/quote] Head halter with a light leash parallel to regular leash and collar will give power steering.[/quote] That might just the the most irresponcxible advice I've ever read in regaurding handling an a high defence drive dog. The male dog in question, in the owners own words,......... "Before I realised my dog jumped on him and I flew as a leaf after. The chap flew on his back with my dog laying on his chest with teeth on his throat. Without my husbands help I would not had a chance to get my dog off the bloke. " We all have contributions we can offer this community. When it comes to importing dogs and marketing a Kennel.....Your're the 1st person I want to read. Your're out of your element in discusions about practical application of Gaurd & PP work. Please, before your advice gets some one hurt.... [color=red]STOP[/color]