[/quote]As far as this having to do with $$ I would say you're way off base. JC did have a male yrs ago that sired a litter, but has not had a litter that know of since. And Nikki's last litter was over 15 months ago.[/quote] I don't know what to think anymore. It just frustrates me that people who have alot to offer in terms of knowledge of the breed and have the contacts and experience to assist others are just fighting each other, its a constant put off for a lot of people who would have otherwise learned or even contributed knowledge which is what these websites are meant for. They're quite some forums around but too much conflicts abound and it puts an unnecessary barrier before those it was meant to serve.