Thanks for the honest answer. Breeders will genuinely believe that their dogs portraying great watchdog ability is proof that they are real guardians. I think people often use the Rotty as a yard-stick for guardians temperament. Because a good one has all the attributes required for guarding. "It does exactly what it says on the tin!" So to speak. Alert but not too vocal, biddable,intelligent, poweful and good family dog. And the reputation to make strangers beware. Whereas the LGD is no where near as biddable. The Presa no where near as intelligent. GSD too vocal, not as poweful. Many LGD's have difficult to manage coats as well! ETC, ETC However these Rotts are quite hard to find. But a good one is hard to beat! And they even have a owner friendly coat that is very easy to manage. I sure hope that they are not the next dog to go on the DDA !!!