Bully Greyhound the accidental Relic
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What a thing to see! While surfing the usual sites I stumbled upon something new, and very interesting. An Austrailian site dedicated to boar hunting dogs. With little concern for conformation and alot for performance this site lists breeders of dogs limited to the Austrailian contenent and her surrounding islands. Two dogs in particular caught my eye one of which I will discuss here. The dog is called a Bully Greyhound. Created in the 1970s by Peter Ayre who crossed English Bull Terriers with racing Greyhounds to produce a swift and tenacious dog capable of amazing speed and determination in the hunt. later would come two single breedings of Pit bull and Airedale terrier (although some lines are void of Airedale blood) giving rise to a larger less leggy animal. The dogs were for a while falling out of favor, with older hunters retiring and the younger generation prefering some of the newer crossbreeds. The Bully Greyhound has now however made a nice resurgance in NT, Queensland, and New South Wales, thanks to the efforts of some dedicated breeders. The amazing thing one will first notice when seeing these dogs is the uncanny resemblance to early European oil paintings of boar hunts. Being a man concerned only with his dogs function. Reconstruction was never the goal of Mr. Ayre. He has inadvertantly managed to perfectly create an accidental relic. so whether you noticed or not Great job! -
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The TV show Globe Trekker showed them in their Australian episode. It was quite graphic as these dogs were filmed catching and quickly dispatching a large wild pig; very impressive dogs! Regards, Keith -
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Hello John. I wouldnt consider it a Bandogge. As many believe that this term is used to describe Fighting dog crosses. Many believe that the word Ban comes from a Dog tied to something like a chain. Since these animals are used primarily for hunting and not fighting, as well as breeding very true to type, they would ofcourse now be nothing other than a new purebred, In their early stages I would classify them as more of a cur. as most hunting dog crosses are often loosley refered to. Best Wishes. Lane -
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hi gents my name is peter ayre nice to see you talking about me,,,there is plenty more about this breed ,if you look under the australian pigdog there is a page on the bully grey,now as i have read there was a cross to an airdale bully greyhound done once which we or i have keep away fron as this mating was dun only the 1 time in the eighty,s it did not take of or hurt the breed in any way,this is a family 0f dogs that go back to the seventies.and is still being worked on today,,as working dogs are just that a work in progress,,,,this dogs are breed for the same family or lines that go back to the late sixty,s,,,and as for bandogs i thought they where pitty crossed with neo mastiffs,,,any way all the best and good luck with your forum ,,,,cheers peter ayre -
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Welcome to the site. Thanks for our input, we would love to see some pictures of your dogs and what they do. -
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Bull Arabs and others used in Aussie hunting. http://www.boardogs.com/Working_Dogs1.htm -
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Thanks for the link, I've seen it. I was looking for a more personal touch. ;) -
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BullyGreys show that you don't need to randomly breed a dozen "rare" dogs to achieve a masterpiece. With the EBT-Greyhound breeding being so successful, I have to wonder why the EBT-Mastiff mating hasn't been similarly pursued for protection dog purposes. Peter, why did this dog fall out of favor? On-line videos show them catching and leveling boar pretty easily. I've never seen any other dogs do it so well. Again, I'm talking about internet footage, not first hand experience. 110 lbs. of Bully-Grey looks like A LOT of dog. -
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They are too much dog on their own for most. Even breeders return dogs for being too much to handle... When you give them the size and power of a mastiff... What do you think happens? -
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i have a mate rod baker ,he helped me develop this line in the seventy,s together we continue to breed he will get on here and post pics and more info as he loves all the internet chat ,,,as for them falling out of favour ,its more the where kept a secret ,there are hundreds here and the numbers will only grow ,,,,,now as for there size and being hard to handle ,,,not true in aust as many other countrys there is a growing problem with dogs attacks,the bullygrey have been breed as a hunter and family pet as far as man biting and aggresion towards people these triat,s are not excepted and will not be bred from,,in our crounty we like dogs that will find and hold big boars 1 out ,,we do not use cold nose dogs and catch dogs as i seen on vidos from the usa,,here we hunt for the chiller trade its about number the more you box the more you make, pigs need to be found and caught fast that is why the bullgrey and bullarb are ideal for the export trade to germany ,,,cheers peter ayre -
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Mr. Ayre, I was referring to the English bull terrier, not the bully grey. It was in a short fused answer to redeagles question as to why the ebt isn't used in a bandog program. -
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no problems i should read before posting ,cheers peter ayre -
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there is an other thread on here ref to oz bullygreyhound and they have added pics for all to see cheers ,,peter ayre -
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Great to see this thread still active Peter. This is one of the few new breeds I truly feel deserves conversation.