DOSA ( KOREAN MASTIFF)

Sure, and how is the average duration of life of this typical Mastiff?

I have personally spoken to the guy who runs/owns the Red Dragon Kennel, his name is Joo. Very nice guy. The Dosa is a very neat and interesting breed, too bad there aren't any more sites about them. They are very very similar to my beloved Neo that its almost scary. The build, construction, and the wrinkle and heavy bone. Anyway, some of you may have communicated with him to, but if not PM me for any litle bit of info i have. Cheers !

Oh what an impressive looking dog! I would just love one (the Mee-Kyun Dosa variety). Don't know what the pugs would think though :roll:

Hello all i would like to say boomslang you are right the much earlier dosa is much different from the dosa's red dragon is putting out although i belive red dragon is a Dog Importer you can find his importing site on google, as far as if he breeds them i really don't know? I really do not like to slander his kennel so I must start by saying that he does have excellent dosa and tosa on his site but you can find the same pictures at mastini kennels.com and all the same pics have Top gunn Kennel written on them Which brings me to the importer issue. i know this as i have also done business with Joo from Red dragon i purchased Canada First breeding pair of dosa. but what was suppose to cost me $3200us a pup and 6mths later i still had no pups but he would be willing to send me them if i gave him another $1000 a pup so i did. i can honestly say that i am happy with the way they have turn out now but it took me alot of nursing them back as they were sent from South Korea to Toronto Canada at 4 weeks old and very ill. but even though i had these issues i was still willing to do more business with Red dragon but only if and when he can produce the papers for them i was promissed I am not the only person who imported from him and was promissed papers and did not get them. So to the comment out there about speaking with Joo and him being very nice yes he is until he's got your money. and it is too bad as i wanted nothing more then to bring many more dosa's back here to Canada. so if anyone knows of another dosa breeder i would love their site, and boomslang i have to dissagree with you on the newer style dosa not having the nice smooth coat if you look at my web site you will see that my dosa's have a very nice smooth shinny coat www.masterdomainkennels.com I just want to say one more time the dosa's are great but everyone be very careful what your promissed when importing one. :twisted:

I Googled: "Other Korean Dog Breeds/Populations > What is a "dosa"? Is it a Korean breed? First of all, let me clarify that I'm really not a fan of the "dosa" and have been avoiding a write-up of them, however, in the three or four years that the "dosa" has appeared on the internet, there's been a lot of knee-jerk hostility and negativity, but not a lot of informed decision-making about them. The Name The first thing to clarify is that "dosa" and "tosa" are the same word in Korean and mean the same thing to Koreans. The divergence in spelling is due to how the word is Romanized to English. In Korean, the dog's name is . The Romanization of directly into English is "dosa," which takes into account of another Korean consonant with a stronger d/t sound. However, since the dogs are mostly from Japan and the Japanese prefer "tosa" in their Romanization, "tosa" is more commonly used in the English-speaking world. "D/tosa" will be used in the remainder of this page to re-emphasize that the two words are the same. Are there differences between a Korean d/tosa and a Japanese d/tosa? It's been generalized that the d/tosa of Korea is this massively wrinkled, red beast while the d/tosa of Japan is this fit and trim fighting animal. This isn't quite true. In both countries, you'll see dogs of both types. The d/tosas in South Korea have their origins from Japan, and, as much as I would prefer it to not be, there are some Koreans who fight their d/tosas. With similar origins and functions, many of these fighting dogs in Korea look very much like their fighting counterparts in Japan. The majority of the d/tosas in Japan are utilized for fighting, but there are reports where a few areas (Kochi, I think?) that have red dogs with wrinkles, similar to those in Korea, which caters to tourists. A better way to catagorized the d/tosa would be by type rather than from country. Koreans have labelled the heavily wrinkled, deep red d/tosas as "Mee-Kyun", which translates into "beauty dog" and the fighting d/tosas as "Thoo-Kyun", which translates into "fighting dog. Is the Mee-Kyun d/tosa a mix and the Thoo-Kyun d/tosa a purebred? It's often said (rather derrogatorily) by English-speakers that the "dosa" (referring to the meekyun d/tosa) must be a neo mix and that breeders of this type are unethical. On the other hand, the "tosa" (the thookyun d/tosa) is admired and considered a purebred. This a rather funny position to take. Assuming that the meekyun d/tosa is a mix, why the uproar and the indignation? Considering the history of the thookyun d/tosa - evolving from a medium-sized spitz to the giant mastiff of today - the thookyun d/tosa can hardly lay claims to being a purebred of very long lineage. Considering the current situation of fighting dogs of other breeds *still* being grandfathered in, being purebred is not the defining characteristic of the thookyun d/tosa. It would make more sense to me if all d/tosas were defined as a breed type (like huskies, lurchers, and bandogs) rather than a purebred, but that's just me... Is the mee-kyun d/tosa's appearance due to a neo influence? I know this is a popular theory due to the excessive wrinkles, but I'm not a big fan of it. I don't believe there were that many neos in Korea when the mee-kyun d/tosa gained popularity. I'm more in favor of something similar to convergent evolution in the development of the heavy wrinkles. The Italians were able to change their neos from a moderately wrinkled house guardian to a heavily wrinkled, large dewlapped, loose-skinned dog in just 20 years. Something similar could have been done to change the fighting d/tosa to a mee-kyun version of the d/tosa. I believe most neos tend to be fawn or greyish. Nearly all mee-kyun d/tosas are a deep red. I would assume that if the neo was used in creating the mee-kyun d/tosas, there should be some color other than deep red that reflects a dilution gene in effect. Are all Korean Mee-kyun d/tosa breeders unethical? Due to the bad experience with *one* kennel in Korea, the "dosa" has taken a major hit in credibility. Honestly, I do feel it's been blown out of proportion. Imagine me branding all German shepherds dogs as unhealthy and all German shepherd breeders as fakes because I didn't do enough research in selecting the right breeder with the right dogs. Ridiculous, isn't it? There *are* other breeders of the meekyun d/tosa who aren't going to demand outrageous amounts of money, send sickly animals, or give confusing information about the dogs. They just choose not to advertise on the internet, which I think is best for these extra-large dogs."

Boomslang my name is Todd i am writting this comment as you seem to be very aware of the dosa breed. if you would be interesed in contacting me i would love to talk to you some more about the dosa. one thing in that comes to mind is i need to find a standard on the dosa as i would love to continue showing them here but i will need a proper standard to do so. do you have any ideas where i could find one. if you would like to contact me my email is tcannon8@sympatico.ca or my site is www.masterdomainkennels.com :lol: :lol:

ditto to the above post. Zues and Zena are beautiful animals

I take offense to what you are saying. These Dosa's are not deformed. They are correct specimens of the breed. Since you obviously find them unappealing I suggest you no longer look at them and in the meantime keep your ignorant comments to yourself. Scarlette