fighting bitches in same pack

In our house, it has come to a fight 2 times now between my dogs. First with our new dog and my one girl, and today wit the new one and the other girl. Age difference concerning, the trouble maker is 9 months, the other ones are 2 and 3 years old. In daily life we try to be consistant with the leadership issues, like food , who does what first, etc.. Is it normal for a 9 month old to start to try to climb the ladder in the hiarchy? Should i , and when should i stop a fight? Do you have any tips and tricks for me, perhaps im doing something wrong. Thanks!

Had 3 related presa girls that were fine...until the youngest got closer to a year, and started trying to climb the ladder. Thought the first fight was due to an illness of the oldest (alpha bitch), but the oldest wouldn't even be in the same room with her without getting hostile when she was better. The one stuck in the middle is the youngest's mom, who is about a year younger then the alpha, and the older two are cousins, and have never had a problem. However, shortly after starting in on the oldest, the youngest then tried to take on mom. Not wanting to waste money at the vet's, we just ended up separating them. We're used to it with the boys, so it was nothing new for us. That may be the final solution for you if you can't find a way around this. It would most likely end up needing to "put the fear of god" into the girls, but that would only be trustworthy if you were around.

DESIREE, The troublemaker is cane corso ( gaia ) , vida is non related cane corso, and the last is a street dog from spain ( rescued dog ) and she is a small mix, choco.. Thanks for the replies, hopefully they will find a way not to keep on fighting, so we wont have to sepparate all the time. But we will see. So far so good, no new fights yet, getting along in the garden and greeting each other and sniffing. But slight tension is noticable sometimes. I keep my i on them.

I would roll the aggressive one or both to the ground and make them stay on their side till it calms down you the pack leader make the rules and have to enforce them just like wolves that's what Caesar Milan does to control a pack of 30+ mostly pit bulls they do respect the pack leader's wishes but you have to win every time if you can't then you may have to get a trainer to help. Daily rub downs holding them on there side saying the word settle till they give in and settle are easy and you can use the word later to make them submit on command when you need to break up a fight, cut their nails, grooming or anything they will listen if your consistent.

thank you. so far we had a few stare downs, and i stept in as refferee to end the conflict. Adding commands and sending them to there own spots in the house. no fights yet so far, i think im handling it pretty well. the funny thing is, that my male ccmix boeda, who is a so called tuffguy in the street with other dogs, is totally scared when the bitches have a conflict. he tries to butt in , but just does not have the balls. I wish he was more like this outside during his walks, haha.

Babigirl- Have the same response from my older 8yr old male presa. If his girls get into a serious fight, he will get int he middle of it and kick some ass, which is funny because he's usually the most laid back. The girls are his daughter, his niece and neice's daughter.

I would say you are doing something wrong - you recognise that the young one is the trouble maker, yet you're obviously not doing anything to keep her in line and letting her know that what she's doing (annoying the older dogs) is not acceptable behavior. [/quote] I am laying down the line and setting the rules for sure. Sinds i am being a bit harder on my new pride and joy she understands perfectly who's boss. me. no new trouble yet. thanks

Stay on them they will soon realize dads watching every move and do the settle, brush them, pet them, keep it light and happy but they can't get away ever till you relaese them. You do this regular they will watch and do anything for you the respected pack leader.

Think about this, Cesar's pack consists of all spay and neutered dogs....What if you have breeding dogs?[/quote] He has plenty of dogs that came from the pits one without an eye. Neutering usually does little to fix problems most vets will agree it can make them mellower fatter and taller if neutered early. You will have more problems if you have more than one intact male around a female in heat but wolves have one breeding pair, a strong pack leader can still cope using the same method or straddling over thier back holding both sides of their neck and sit this is the easiest and safest way.

Well , the two bitches are at it again. Vida just had a litter, gaia is on heat, and in 3 days i have had to seperate them 4 times. Gaia is a machine, she jumps vida every chance she gets. I have them seperated for now, hope things cool down again, like it did last time. o yeah, got my thumb grazed by gaia's jaws, waiting for the nail to come off now. ouch.

Females with puppy's will be more aggressive one of my Rottweiler's bit my neighbor lady in the face when I was stupid enough to let her and my girlfriend convinced me to visit the week old pups she wasn't hurt badly I was right there and were away from the pups a few feet, that dog was always great with people never bit before or after. Her mother bit a guy who reached to touch her pups while she was feeding them despite my telling him to stay back she would bite and had . Limit there exposure while the pups are around to just close personal contact with you and no pups, do the settle exercise with all your dogs I'll elaborate you go to your dog while they are laying down with some treats if you like or not pet them while saying settle or any command you wish they will learn by conditioning and roll them on there side with as little force as needed keep it calm even if they freak out put one hand on there neck/shoulder (if they try to bite I put my finger in there mouth from the back of the jaw where there are no teeth, biting is not allowed) the other one on it's hip from behind there back sit on them If you have too but they can't get up until they relax and lay there head on the ground voluntarily with minimal pressure and soon none keep it as light and friendly as possible keep it short to begin with and later do it longer, but win at all cost do this every day cut there nails brush them you are the boss. So next time if they think they can fight around you grab them both by scruff and slam them to the ground saying your command word use your knees to pull them apart if you have to and keep them on the ground until they give up if you do it every day they will known they can't win so it may not even happen to begin with good luck. Ps. females with pups can be unpredictable.

In general , when i read about the situation when one bitch has had a litter, usualy its this bitch( mom ) who is the agressor. In our case its not the mom ( vida ) but gaia the 1,5 year younger bitch. She tries to get her every chance she gets. Vida fights back ferociously but stops immidiately when i step in. Gaia on the other hand does not. she does not let go unless i force her. the fights start in a blink of an eye, when i am not paying attention for one second, or it has started when i am not in the room. also gaia gets exited when there is a lot going on in a room, like greeting time when coming home, or going out time, then she ''snaps'' and attacks. I admit i have let my guard down since last time's episode a year ago. things were peacefull again. up till now.

The younger one is naturally more aggressive probably with more drive than Vida had at the same age. They have hormones kicking in at about 7-11 months when they hit puberty having there first heat or males will start to lift there leg to pee, they can challenge you or any other lesser members of the pack human or animal at this time and again at about 1.5 to 2 years old when their adult hormones kick in to stop their bone growth and finish maturing into adulthood which may take another year or more for their full development. If they clearly understand the pecking order after these periods you should be good for the rest of there life until they get old some dog will get grumpier. Gaia will probably be the dominant one in the end but it can be achieved without a giant battle that could send both to the vet or worse, they can work it out slower after the pups are gone. The way they act at the door is because you haven't recognized that Gaia is dominant and should receive attention first then she wouldn't have to put Vida in her place for getting out of line also obedience should be very good no attention unless they sit or do something for you get also get into the habit of giving them less praise at the door coming or going making them sit when you come and go they won't get as worked up. When they eat or go outside does one wait or give the other one space? The settle exercise I described worked 8 months ago and things have been good till Gaia's second heat and also the pups are triggering the new battles if you do the exercise to the point that they will do it on command easily and figure out the pecking order of all your dogs and make them work for attention and give it to them in order, things should be good after the pups are gone if you keep on them in line. Gaia needs more work while Vida will stop fighting easier she respects you more and may have less rank or fight drive if they know 100% that any aggression will result in a time out on there side every time till they both give in to you together one will back down first and that will help them establish your rank and there own with each other. The problem will be gone if your consistent & work them separately till they are both very good then do it to both of them together giving them treats can make it easier to begin with but not together or every time. I have done this when a 9 month old rottweiler that had bitten the 3 & 10 year old kids he grew up with they play fought with him all the time despite my warnings. The 3 year old could later stand eye to eye with the male dog grab his face and roll him to the ground easily and sit on his head he lived another 9 years never a problem with the family again and was a very good guard dog. My 3 & 6 year old daughters can do it to my dog with alot of drive she has been doing the exercise with the kids for a long time they can do anything and the dog lets them they lean right against her give her hugs and she doesn't move she has been taught respect for them. I have done this with a dog that thought every dog was a rabbit didn't mater how big never tried to posture or dominate just had a taste for blood she could be good around dogs after a long getting use to period or on leash never safe with strange dogs but great with dogs she accepted never hurt them.