Size question...
Hi Instere0,
First, welcome to the world of molosser dogs! This will be a great adventure and learning curve for both all you.
Regarding your question of size, as you know, it is a real guessing game; especially with parents who are not of the same breed, or mix as it were.
From what I understand in genetics, size comes from the female side of things (members can correct me here). But for the fun of it I am going to guess about the same size as my male bandog which will have more bully blood in him, and that is 115ish.
Cheers,
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My girlfriend just got a new puppy and we're trying to figure out what to expect as far the size of her puppy when it's full grown. Her puppy is a female, it's 75% neapolitan mastiff 25% pitbull. The puppy's dad was 100% neapolitan mastiff and the mom was 50% neapolitan mastiff 50% pitbull. I saw pictures of the parents and they were pretty big, I would say the dad was easily 100lbs+ and the mom had to be at least 85lbs. I know that size mostly has to do with genetics and nutrition, but I was wondering if anyone could help me with an estimate of the height and weight we could expect her puppy to be. Also, would that be considered a ban dog or just a mix? And what should be the appropriate growth rate for a puppy like that? I would also appreciate advice from anyone who is willing to give it.
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Hi Instere0, First, welcome to the world of molosser dogs! This will be a great adventure and learning curve for both all you. Regarding your question of size, as you know, it is a real guessing game; especially with parents who are not of the same breed, or mix as it were. From what I understand in genetics, size comes from the female side of things (members can correct me here). But for the fun of it I am going to guess about the same size as my male bandog which will have more bully blood in him, and that is 115ish. Cheers,
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Thanks for the reply and for the welcome. I really hope to learn a lot from this site. I'll try to get some pics of my girl's puppy so everyone can take a more accurate guess. I know it's hard to guess, but at least I figured that people in this forum would have better guesses than I would. I have no experience with molossers, I'm an Akita man myself. As far as my other questions, do you have any input on them?
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Ha I was fooled by the heading of this topic!!!! I thought it was going to be about something else.....
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Hello Instere0, I would suggest that you not worry so much about weight of the grown dog since she is still a pup. Lets just say that I hope she fits the bottom - middle end of the Neapolitan Mastiff weight and height standard. The thing to do is to keep her light and trim. Do not over feed her in an attempt to claim how heavy she is. The Neo has enough baggage it hauls around already. So, exercise her appropriately and feed her a very good quality food (perferable raw) and keep her thin and healthy. She will be fine and can fill out later. Ok, is you really want a swag - I wuld say 115 lbs. 27 inches.
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Thanks Gsicard. Believe me I'm not one of those people who like to brag about how big his dog is. My main concern is helping my girl keep her puppy at a healthy weight to avoid any health problems. Exercise, a good diet, discipline, and socialization are already part of the plan. I was just curious about it since there's not a profile for a 75%neo 25% pit anywhere. I honestly just don't know what to expect, it was a lot easier with my akita because there's a lot more info available for them. But like I posted before, any tips or advice anyone has to offer will be appreciated.
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Hello Instere0 welcome to the site. The problem with trying to guess how big a mix breed dog is the fact that the 25% "pitbull" could show it's traits in more of the litter than others. I mean if there were 6 pups, 3 male and 3 female the sizes could be all over the shop because your g/f's dog has not been bred to a standard and therefore (
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Thanks for the reply Mw9661! I only saw pics of the parents, but my guess is that the pit blood comes from a small pit not a big bully pit. Bully pits down here (Guatemala) are not common at all. From what I have read about Bandogs I knew that they were performance dogs, and my girl's puppy is the laziest puppy I have ever seen. So I doubt that it'll ever do any type of "work". And she pretty much wanted it to be a family pet. The guy that sold us the puppy is a mastiff breeder. He's got 2 english mastiffs, 2 neos, and 2DDB's. He told us he had a friend who had the pit/neo mix (the mom) and wanted to breed it back to a neo, and he did it as a favor. Here are some pics of the puppy when it was around 2 moths old.
Thanks for all the replies, keep them coming.
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Thanks for the pics they are great. don't be fooled by your pups laziness at such a young age as she has a lot of growing to do and all her energy will be going on that. You will often (not allways) find that smaller breeds have more active pups than bigger breeds as they do not have much growing to do. Adding APBT blood to the neo is not new and is a good way to try and make a neo healthier and more athletic IF the dogs were selected for health not size or colour. Pete
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Hmm, well genetics can be a lottery, so it would be hard to guess how big the dog will be. However, i would take a punt of saying the dog will be around 100 pounds. I think the Pitbull blood will deffiantly improve the dogs peformance/gameness, while also keeping your bandog smaller than your avergae Neo. I would guess your dog will around 100" give or take a few pounds, judgeing by the stats you gave and the 75/25 % mix.
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First of all beautiful pup!, I wont speculate on size or height but I can tell you that when crossing other breeds with a Neo the Neo genes like to be dominant so your pup could very well be the same size as uncrossed Neo. Like stated earlier keep the pup fit because they do have extra baggage anyway. Congrats on your new pup!