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Vaccination for handling class **!!

It depends on the lab. Some Vets can do it in house, others have to send it out. I would check with the class to see what they allow. I know some that are only worried about bordetella and rabies. Ask if they will accept a titer. Did you get a 4/5 way booster at a year when he got his rabies?
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    • So I am taking Bernie to a handling class, and the school is requiring up to date shots. Bernie received his complete set of shots when he was a puppy but because of the over vaccination information I have been reading I did not do any yearly boosters besides the rabies which is required by law. Is there any way around this? I really do not feel like pumping Bernie with the 4-1 again, I will get the bordatella but I don't want to give him that 4-5 or 5-1. I was also considering the titer test but I don't know how long it takes, I am going to start the class on Saturday. Any help will be greatly apreciated...
      • It depends on the lab. Some Vets can do it in house, others have to send it out. I would check with the class to see what they allow. I know some that are only worried about bordetella and rabies. Ask if they will accept a titer. Did you get a 4/5 way booster at a year when he got his rabies?
        • I believe he did not receive the yearly booster, I did no let them do it when they asked me. Do you think it will be ok if I just do it this once for this class? It is really good school, one of their dogs went to Crufts last year to compete in Obedience.
          • Personally, I give puppy protocol, a yearly booster when rabies is administered, then I do not booster again until the dog is between 6-9y. Rabies every 3y per law. Bordetella when required by travel or boarding. Unless you had a reaction to the vaccine, you should be fine. I use high titer, modified live with no adjuvant. I would really avoid adjuvants. Here is a nice article about average titer levels and effectiveness for different vaccines in a study. This is what Vets should follow, but most don't... http://www.chercarkennels.net/images/aahavaccinereport.pdf
            • thank you I feel more comfortable about giving him the booster after talking to you :) It sucks that if I start competing with him I am going to ahve to keep his stuff up to date. We will see how this class goes, there is a portion of leash so I am little nervous about it lol
              • David, try asking the organization performing the training which vaccination they require by law. I only gave my dogs was was required - nothing more. Betsie gave good advise above.
                • Thanks Gary I emailed them and they did not even respond. At this point I will just do the yearly booster since I never did it. The Titers are pretty expensive at my vet but If I do get into competitive training for Obedience at the club I will inquire about titers or health certificates. There's no scientific evidence that boosters do anything for the dog's inmune system. I know Pharma companies want to make money and so do the vets.
                  • Well yes and no. I have to maintain a rabies titer level. Here, they test our titer one year after the first series of shots. If you have acceptable levels, you get titered every two years after. If the levels are too low, boosters are given to maintain effective antibody levels. This is only done by exposure. You also want to maintain B memory cells specific for the pathogens. This is only done by exposure. Now inoculations can be overused, which can increase allergic reactivity, benign tumors, adjuvant exposure/reactions and other complications. If you give boosters when appropriate, they are effective. I am living proof, haven't had rabies yet...
                    • Now that I know your name is Betsy it helps a lot hehe I will do the booster now because I do not have time to find the right place. However, when and If I proceed to continue into competition I will study your information and hopefully provide enough information to be allowed to pariticipate with titer results.
                      • Vaccinations are very important. I suggest you must not skip any of your [link=http://www.trainpetdog.com/Bernese-Mountain-Dog/about-bernese-mountain-dog.html]berner[/link]'s vaccination schedules for the vaccines to have effect.
                        • I agree! Vaccinations are very important and should not be neglected. They're part of [link=http://www.trainpetdog.com/Saint-Bernard/about-saint-bernard.html]Saint Bernard care[/link] and other dog breed care as well.
                          • Over vaccination is just as bad, I won't redo yearly boosters until I run a titer. The only vaccine I have to give to my dog by law is the rabbies. My little chihuahua will not get any of that, he is an indoor dog, and those shots really hurt the little ones. Maybe ill run a titer on him to see how his inmune system is doing but shots and little dogs do not mix well. One my cats was crying for 3 days when she got her rabies and she was completely miserable.
                            • Boosters are important and they strengthen the dog's immunity. Missing shots of booster is fine though but this means that the dog is having the less protection and repeating the dog's vaccine because you forgot what he took already is not harmful but expensive. That is why date of vaccinations is important. My [link=http://www.trainpetdog.com/Saint-Bernard/about-saint-bernard.html]saint bernard[/link] has complete vaccines and has no problem because my I have an organize schedule.
                              • [quote1330361443=BernaBerneseMountain] Boosters are important and they strengthen the dog's immunity. Missing shots of booster is fine though but this means that the dog is having the less protection and repeating the dog's vaccine because you forgot what he took already is not harmful but expensive. That is why date of vaccinations is important. My saint bernard has complete vaccines and has no problem because my I have an organize schedule. [/quote1330361443] I respectfully disagree regarding yearly boosters. There is no scientific proof that these yearly shots are necessary or beneficial to the dog's immune system. Why don't humans get yearly shots for the baby shots they got when they were growing up? Pharma companies and vets push these yearly protocols to make money and nothing more. Dogs spend all day licking/eating crap of the ground and never get sick. Why should they be shot with chemicals every year without a reason? A titer is the only scientific way to analyze whether your dog's immune system is compromised.
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