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The best system I ever saw was this. Dig the area down 18 inches. Fill with 6inches of sand on the bottom and 12 inches of pea gravel. The sand allows for urine or vomit to sink down and be away from the dog. The gravel allows for a cool area for the dogs to lay on and the movement of the gravel is a great shock absorber for movement. If it is feesible for you, I'd suggest doing that.
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    • I am planning on getting a large property next year, I don't want my dogs crapping on the areas where we play with them and my son will be running around by then. I am planning on creating a kind of gated area where I can send my dogs to crap there that way I can maintain that area and keep the pooping contained. What kind of floor do you recommend for that use? enclosing a grassy area would be pointless since I will have to cut the grass and depending on the size it will be difficult to get a ride on mower in there.
      • The best system I ever saw was this. Dig the area down 18 inches. Fill with 6inches of sand on the bottom and 12 inches of pea gravel. The sand allows for urine or vomit to sink down and be away from the dog. The gravel allows for a cool area for the dogs to lay on and the movement of the gravel is a great shock absorber for movement. If it is feesible for you, I'd suggest doing that.
        • [quote1315592074=Crnosrce1] The best system I ever saw was this. Dig the area down 18 inches. Fill with 6inches of sand on the bottom and 12 inches of pea gravel. The sand allows for urine or vomit to sink down and be away from the dog. The gravel allows for a cool area for the dogs to lay on and the movement of the gravel is a great shock absorber for movement. If it is feesible for you, I'd suggest doing that. [/quote1315592074] Thank you for the tip I think that is a great idea. This would not be a kennel set up so the dogs would be staying in that area during the day, I would simply put them in there to poop. I can't control the peeing since they will mark everywhere but if I can keep the poop area controlled it will be very good. Is there a specific sand or gravel I should look for?
          • Pea gravel is what was used, and as far as I know, any sand from a landscape store would work. I use pea gravel in my kennels.
            • thank you, I know I am getting ahead of my self thinking so long in the future but I need to have a very good plan so I can keep a nice yard mantained.
              • The surfaces previously noted should suffice. If the enclose is not too large, the expense should not be an issue. I own 3.5 acres, with two kennels on my property, each measuring 40 feet X 60 Feet. I stopped keeping my dogs in the kennels, as they scale the 6 foot chain link fence and constantly scavenge in the surrounding state park for deer carcasses. However, I have trained all my dogs to use the enclosures to deficate in. Training was quite easy and took only a short time. They rarely go outside these enclosures and when they make a mistake, it is in the general proximity of their enclosures. Consistency in training is of the utmost importance. I clean the enclosures regulary, which is a must. Each dog possesses a unique personality. Some of the dogs I have owned, relished in the scent of excriment and appeared stimulated by such, while one dog I owned absolutely disdained areas containing dog feces.
                • [QUOTE]I stopped keeping my dogs in the kennels, as they scale the 6 foot chain link fence and constantly scavenge in the surrounding state park for deer carcasses.[/QUOTE] Lol, that's kind of cool (but annoying for you I'm sure). What kind of dogs are they? I've often wondered if scavenging is a drive that differs between dog types depending on how much they've needed to scavenge in their history. My little pup now is a bit of a keen scavenger, guess it could just be an indication of a good nose too.
                  • What drive would scavenging be, food? Wouldn't food drive just be a derivative of another drive, say prey? But if its already dead, how could it be prey drive when it isn't moving? I know the search for food is from the drive to survive, but that's too simple. I've had dogs who turned their noses up to raw meat or even carcasses, and the dogs I have now most deffinitely look for carcasses to roll in and consume.
                    • I don't know, to be honest "drive talk" isn't my forte but it does seem like some dogs seem to be actively on the search for food, while others are oblivious to the idea, and it seems separate to whether or not they're usually gluttonous pigs when you feed them. Obviously wild dogs would benefit from actively searching for food, treating that like a job every day would yield fruit so to speak. Some dogs seem to have this drive or instinct or whatever you want to call it strongly, while in others it is subdued or absent.
                      • Pea gravel-100% Not only will it help to allow the fluid to drain. It is a great way to help strengthen legs, which will be perfect for you sloppy mastiff(ish) pup your plaining for!
                        • I honestly think the puppy will be easiest to get used to do that poop kennel protocol, Bernie on the other hand is going to be a baby about it and I will have to have cookies at hand to praise him to lock the behavior once he poops in there lol I was thinking of getting a fire hydrant and putting it in the middle to encourage the dogs to pee in there as well lol
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