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Caucasian Ovcharka in North America

Hi Gary, in my opinion, and it is just my opinion, I do not believe that the level of ADR is an issue. I believe that owners will continue to get the CO's which they like, and continue with what they do with there own CO's as they have done. I know that I will continue to get or keep from future litters, Lord willing, ;) that I like. I will continue to socialize, do limited showing, continue to visit hospitals, schools, nursing homes, go downtown Dallas, and so on with ALL my guys. My Ch. Rusdog Kats Taloa was a high ADR, yet he was able to be among the general public with no problems at all due to my socializing him. It takes lots of work, but fits my life style. This is not to say that this is what everyone should do. I believe that each and everyone who has this breed, knows what works for them, and that is what we need. Just my 2 cents worth. The temperaments do not have to change, if they do, it is because the majority of the people with these guys, has chosen to go this way. But there will always be some of us who will continue to do our own thing with them. As far as type, I will continue to get the type that I, myself, like! I like plenty of bone, little stop, good pasterns, hips, elbows, knees, heart, thyroid, eyes, and I love the colors of Taloa and Taima, and love my Black Beauties Suki and Noka, who have Flash! This is what I, myself, look for and tend to have. Keep smiling Kat
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    • [size=12]I created this topic so we can share our experiences and knowledge about the CO's introduction, development and future in North America. Here we can discuss the development of "type" and the changes in "temperament" to suite the North American fanciers. Take note: This is not a topic to bash anyone or to discuss the virtues of breeders. Please just stick to the history and development of the dogs in North America.[/size]
      • Hi Gary, in my opinion, and it is just my opinion, I do not believe that the level of ADR is an issue. I believe that owners will continue to get the CO's which they like, and continue with what they do with there own CO's as they have done. I know that I will continue to get or keep from future litters, Lord willing, ;) that I like. I will continue to socialize, do limited showing, continue to visit hospitals, schools, nursing homes, go downtown Dallas, and so on with ALL my guys. My Ch. Rusdog Kats Taloa was a high ADR, yet he was able to be among the general public with no problems at all due to my socializing him. It takes lots of work, but fits my life style. This is not to say that this is what everyone should do. I believe that each and everyone who has this breed, knows what works for them, and that is what we need. Just my 2 cents worth. The temperaments do not have to change, if they do, it is because the majority of the people with these guys, has chosen to go this way. But there will always be some of us who will continue to do our own thing with them. As far as type, I will continue to get the type that I, myself, like! I like plenty of bone, little stop, good pasterns, hips, elbows, knees, heart, thyroid, eyes, and I love the colors of Taloa and Taima, and love my Black Beauties Suki and Noka, who have Flash! This is what I, myself, look for and tend to have. Keep smiling Kat
        • Here are examples of the flash I talked about and the colors of Taloa and Taima. Kat[br][link={e_FILE}public/1245595970_15228_FT65945_mypicturesmix_029.jpg][img:width=450&height=474]{e_FILE}public/1245595970_15228_FT65945_mypicturesmix_029_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1245595970_15228_FT65945_nokajeremyaaaa4-12-09.jpg][img:width=450&height=577]{e_FILE}public/1245595970_15228_FT65945_nokajeremyaaaa4-12-09_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1245595970_15228_FT65945_sukisitprettyaaaa4-12-09.jpg][img:width=450&height=500]{e_FILE}public/1245595970_15228_FT65945_sukisitprettyaaaa4-12-09_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1245595970_15228_FT65945_taima7years6-13-09.jpg][img:width=450&height=344]{e_FILE}public/1245595970_15228_FT65945_taima7years6-13-09_.jpg">[/link][br] I need to add that Coat, is a biggie for me also! Kat
          • Kat, Just curious, do you have any more pics of your black dogs? I have only seen a couple of other COs with the color. May I see their pedigree(s)? Thanks.
              • [quote1245607149=Igmuska] Kat, Just curious, do you have any more pics of your black dogs? I have only seen a couple of other COs with the color. May I see their pedigree(s)? Thanks. [/quote1245607149] Hi there, the black comes from Hanka Velikiy Han which comes from Batir Velikiy Han. Hanka is Mother ofReina Akmenu Gele (Taima) and Raksha Akmenu Gele, full sisters from Aton X Hanka Velikiy Han both Suki and Noka are from Raksha X Molotov Von Ismay (Curly). The Hanka lines seem to throw lots of black colors. I will see what Suki throws when I breed her later this year. These guys also have the lighter undercoat that is according to the standard. I really like my Black Beauties! Keep smiling Kat[br][link={e_FILE}public/1245607911_15228_FT65945_nokahavingfun4-18-09.jpg][img:width=450&height=435]{e_FILE}public/1245607911_15228_FT65945_nokahavingfun4-18-09_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1245607911_15228_FT65945_sukisitkaranasniffs4-12-09.jpg][img:width=450&height=416]{e_FILE}public/1245607911_15228_FT65945_sukisitkaranasniffs4-12-09_.jpg">[/link][br]
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