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An EM with some Temp

Yesterday we were walking at Niagara Falls and we saw a couple with an English Mastiff taking refuge from the heat under a large tree right at the side of the road. Of course we went over to say hi and ask about the dog. As soon as I approached and startede speaking the EM was up from his prostate position and on all fours. He postured and let out a menacing bark letting us know that we were close enough. What a wonderful thing to see an English Mastiff out and aboiut in the 90 degree weather and still having the attitude to protect its owners. The dog was NOT fat or over gross as most EMs tend to be and in my opinion it has the right temperament for the EM. Most of them appear to be lethargic and soft. This dog was a fantastic representative of the image I have of a true EM. We did not get the owners name or take a photo but they have a very good English Mastiff. It is also cool that the Park allows visitors to take their dogs. There were many dogs there. Niagara Falls is very impressive. A must see if you get in the area.
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  • Yesterday we were walking at Niagara Falls and we saw a couple with an English Mastiff taking refuge from the heat under a large tree right at the side of the road. Of course we went over to say hi and ask about the dog. As soon as I approached and startede speaking the EM was up from his prostate position and on all fours. He postured and let out a menacing bark letting us know that we were close enough. What a wonderful thing to see an English Mastiff out and aboiut in the 90 degree weather and still having the attitude to protect its owners. The dog was NOT fat or over gross as most EMs tend to be and in my opinion it has the right temperament for the EM. Most of them appear to be lethargic and soft. This dog was a fantastic representative of the image I have of a true EM. We did not get the owners name or take a photo but they have a very good English Mastiff. It is also cool that the Park allows visitors to take their dogs. There were many dogs there. Niagara Falls is very impressive. A must see if you get in the area.
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    • I wish one day you can walk again Niagara Falls and meet again the couble English Mastiff in this time take photos
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      • Thank you. Yes - that would be great. Maybe the owners are members here and will post.. hehehe.. that would be fantastic.
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        • i have seen a couple of OEMs with such attitude! one of them was a heavy one!! he was the son of the famous indian and australian show champion joker! he was from mastdoch kennels! his roots are from bredwardine.. he is really HUGE and protective! he protects very well!! he looks scary when he is angry too! there are many neos with much more intense temperament too!! you can even call them 'vicious'! you know what i mean.. it was a nice dog.. but he never used to get along with any other male dogs.. but majority of the neos are sift here.. except few who really are one of the greatest guard dogs!! they may not be able to work like other molossers (stamina) but when they fight an intruder, they do it intensely! they are nothing less when compared to any guardian or guard dog breed!! they are formidably mighty!
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          • [quote1250532844=bright]~~ but majority of the neos are sift here.. except few who really are one of the greatest guard dogs!! they may not be able to work like other molossers (stamina) but when they fight an intruder, they do it intensely![/quote1250532844] Hi Bright, does your post quoted here apply to the Neo? if you have or know Neos like that please tell me where they are. The majority of the ones I have seen - with very few exceptions - could not protect themselves. There are of course some exceptions.
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            • [quote1250537022=admin]Hi Bright, does your post quoted here apply to the Neo? if you have or know Neos like that please tell me where they are. The majority of the ones I have seen - with very few exceptions - could not protect themselves. There are of course some exceptions.[/quote1250537022] I agree plenty.In the 80´s still are some hope to the breed.The natural insecurity of the breed are there but with a better balance fear/agresivity.No too late to work try development trought inteligent breeding the strong points of the breed and try eliminate the bad.But the show overselecction since the first 90´s ruined the breed almost completly.Sorry my english.Greetings from Spain.
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              • Thank you for your post. I understand that there are some very good Neos in Spain.
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                • [blockquote]Hi Bright, does your post quoted here apply to the Neo? if you have or know Neos like that please tell me where they are. The majority of the ones I have seen - with very few exceptions - could not protect themselves. There are of course some exceptions.[/blockquote] yes! i am telling that only!! i have found some neos to be very intense!! i told you about the english mastiff right? the same person had a neo too! he would let his OEM loose when i'd visit him! but he would never let me go where his neo stays! because he was so dangerous!! two people would take him for a walk! OEM and neo never used to get along!! he wasn't too big!! 28" may be.. but was heavy!! and the owner used to tell me that when both of them started fighting, they wouldn't stop till either of them lie dead!! he had appointed 2 people to manage dogs.. and one fine day when they fought, all the 3 tried to break the fight and the owner got a serious bite on his thigh! he said that it took more than 15 minutes for them to break the fight! i dunno if he still has it.. he might have given it away for i haven't seen the neo in his house these days.. and another person whom i know had purchased a neo for a dirt cheap price (10,000/- back then, neos were 40K) he was sold for a cheap price because he had almost killed a GSD he was living with.. and this neo attacked 2 people and this guy also gave it away.. he was also not too big.. may be around 27" but wasn't too heavy.. more like dogs that we see in old pics!! if he had a great owner or at least an owner like me he'd have got a permanent and great home to live in.. it is these dogs which made me like the neo! but i had one too.. it was a dog like you said.. 'i had to defend him'.. he was living in my friend's house.. and when strangers would come, he'd stand straight and firm before the stranger and see him with suspicion.. but would calm down n greet him if his name was called lovingly! when he'd see other dogs, he'd again stand firmly with his fat tail straight! he's look big n with lots of wrinkles when he'd stand in that posture (you obviously know what i am talking about).. we had to protect him from other dogs as if they'd fight with him, he would only play.. hahaha these people are foolish! his neo leapt and attacked a walker by when he was on a walk.. for that, they didn;t discourage the dog there! but after coming back to his aquarium shop, they tied his dog n hit him with chains! the dog was looking so dull! it made me dull too! i almost had a quarrel with him! if we want such dogs, we should speak to people about that and enquire and find out.. as of now, i am not in direct touch with such dogs.. but i know they are there.. both type of dogs are available here.. but dogs that are intensely driven are too hard to find.. we'll have to enquire and find them thats all.. but i know that such dogs are available!! even danes with aggressive temperament are available here! recently a dane pulled its ownertowards my puppy when we were going for a walk and attacked him! they both had a fight (hardly a few 10-15 seconds) and we broke the fight! all the pedestrians started scolding him! i was surprised to see such a dane with so much of aggression!! these dane breeders n neo breeders may say anything.. but i like such dogs with driven nature and intensity!! in the hands of a responsible owner, his aggression will certainly be channeled and controlled!
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                  • Thank you very much for the nice answer. I do think that most people cannot handle an serious dog and definately not one of the stature of and OEM or Neo. It is good to know that there may still be some good Neo genes out there. You should see if there are any photos of those dogs available. All the best.
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                    • [quote1250622667=admin] Thank you for your post. I understand that there are some very good Neos in Spain. [/quote1250622667] No way,man.A total pile of garbage.A pitdogman friend of mine like neos and has about six or so in the last few years.A pair of them two not pedigree females.Corrrect structures (for a neo),very friendly with people.Stable,nice girls but without any serious caracter for guard or defense work.The other dogs (all of them with a top pedigree) a total disaster with the ony exception of one male.VERY agressive,in appareance very secure himself (a very strange thing in neos,inclusive in the ones capable to attack and bite),tail always up,structure similar to the dogs of the 80´s.His father was an ATIMANA champion,Leone dello stradone.Other friend have one female daughter of that dog (Leone no,his son) and have a serious dysplasia.Decent structure and movement (before the dysplasia) but no caracter,a lot of insecurity.
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