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American Bully

Well then some of the best bandogs in the country that are being produced by Am Bully foundation didn't happen, lol. I agree most are ridiculous, but I know a few lines that have stayed the course from their original purpose. I have worked some personally. I have also heard some remarkable anecdotes about their feats. IMO, these are Am Bullies, not those pseudo EBs.
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    • Thanks Swetz for clarifying I have looked them up in past after seeing them mentioned here.I should have guessed that was what it stood for when we were talking about "bandogs"
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      • the dog above looks to be a good strong dog have to see more of him..
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        • I think the dog above looks very impressive, but you need to bear in mind that looks aren't the be all end all. Physically, the dog certainly has the tools to be a manstopper, but that doesn't mean it has the mental attributes to be one. Here's the issue I see us facing as molosser owners. In one word... Denial. Just because a dog looks very impressive and is physically very strong doesn't make them a personal protection dog, a working dog, etc. I hear over and over again from molosser owners (and pet owners in general) that make excuses as to why their dogs fall short. I'll give some examples from my personal experience so hopefully I don't offend anyone. I have cani corsi. My male is very althletic for his size and honestly one of the healthiest dogs I've ever had. He's 130 lbs and easily runs 4-5 miles at a time. Aside from the occassional diarrhea and skin acne, he's rarely been sick. We did Penn Hip on him and he's in the 80th percentile for the breed (.45 and .48 DI if i remember correctly). He's a great pet and I love him dearly. I bought him as breed quality, but in my opinion, he's not a breeding prospect. We did some protection work with him, but he's very lacking in prey drive. He does have defense and has been through a few protection sessions. However, he doesn't have a lot of aptitude for it. He'll bite a sleeve, but isn't overly comfortable doing it. He's strong as hell. In fact, I couldn't physically hold him back during agitation. Do his shortcomings mean he's a bad dog? No. Does it mean I'm going to dump him in a shelter? No. I got him as a pet. I don't know much about working dogs and I didn't get him to be one, so I don't think it's fair to expect him to be one. My wife married me when I was a geeky analyst. Should she dump me because I'm not a Green Beret? I sure as shit hope not. Do my dog's shortcomings mean I won't breed my dog? Yes. I grew up with herders. My whole life we had GSD's. The last one's mother had a Schutzhund title and his father was a search and rescue dog. He had so much drive, he drove us nuts. I'm well aware of the difference between herders and molossers, but I'm asking you one thing. Will you focus on function over form, performance over legend? They're laughing at us right now. Go to any Schutzhund, PSA, or Ringsport club and tell them you own an LGD, AB, APBT, Cane Corso, Dogo Argentino, Fila, or anything aside from a GSD, Malinois, or Dutch Shepherd. Watch the look on their face and their body language as you listen to their response. If they're polite, their posture will tell you all you need to know. If not, their words will. Saying your dog would do better in a real situation because the test is artificial and designed for someone else (herders) is like saying you could be an MD or PHD when it really mattered. There are molossers out there that will work and perform, but us all having our heads in the sand won't help our chosen breeds. I issue a challenge to myself and all of you reading this. Will you improve your breed of choice? Will you set objective breeding (performance and health) criteria that all dogs in your program will satisfy without question? Will you washout a dog regardless of the lines behind them or how much you paid for them if they do not satisfy your critieria? Will you test your stock for health, nerves, and stability? Are you part of the problem or part of the solution?...
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          • Nothing will have the drive of something like a malinois... thats pretty obvious, but I really don't understand the point of your post or how it relates to the current thread. Its clear that you have an agenda of some kind, but what that agenda is, is beyond me. If it wasn't for the fact you actually own one, I would assume it was just an attack on molossers.
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            • Has anyone ever seen this video on MFBs kimbo training what do yous think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZP5u0V6-s Really like his look and actions in video,looks to be a great dog..
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              • a cool photo i liked from hiking today. more to come later.[br][link={e_FILE}public/1298878933_16400_FT77867_img_20110227_133003.jpg][img:width=500&height=373]{e_FILE}public/1298878933_16400_FT77867_img_20110227_133003_.jpg">[/link][br]
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                • [quote1298943709=LeeRobinson] One can see I already answered his questions as to why I chose the EM and the Tosa, but he doesn't like my answer since it doesn't fit into the hype stories he has read. I listed a numerical list as to what traits I desire and also explained why these traits are still present in both EM and Tosa...as well as which traits I found lacking in the Neapolitan [/quote1298943709] i have now only taken out the part of your post that was related to dogs and free from insults. who said i don´t like your answer and how can you say your answer doesn´t fit to the "hype stories" i have read about neopolitans. could you please tell me what kind of hype stories i have read according to you *-) i was always one of the guys who said that people who think the neopolitan is some kind of old roman war dog or the closest descendant of some ancient roman war dogs believes in a fairy tale. Tonedog disagreed with me a lot concerning the neopolitan and really believes they are very close to ancient roman war dogs. so who believes in breed hype? ;) lol i know on wikipedia you will also find stuff like "the neopolitan is a large ancient breed bla bla" even some books mention it, but people who know more about it, also know that there was no neopolitan mastiff before the piero scanziani (by the way he was a painter) tryed to create a dog he considered to be some kind of "true molossus" and all kinds of dogs were used and a handful of dogs he found in italy. lol and you have the nerves to say, that i believe in breed hype. :S however i have met a few neopolitans in my life and i don´t have seen them only for a few minutes and the dogs were definitely alert dogs with a good guarding instinct. (well, it´s no surprise as a combination of LGDs and mastiffs went into the neopolitan, so this is where the guardian temperament comes from) this was all i said in this thread and you make such a big deal out of it, come up with stuff that doesn´t have to do with the question at all, and bark like a yorkshire and later tonedog comes up and helps barking lol. lucero also used neopolitans because of the guarding instinct. you mentioned why you prefer tosas and i am fine with it. in this thread you and tonedog really behaved like drama queens. i don´t say you did not answer my question "why you prefer tosas to neopolitans in order to produce bandog type guard dogs", but you have mentioned so many other stuff that did have 0% to do with the thread. like i prefer stable, confident and not overly aggressive dogs, but still really distrustful towards strangers and aloof, i prefer discussion without so much nonsense and "barking" and drama. (well most of this stuff was in the other thread which has been deleted after tonedog´s last aggressive post, which again was completely off-topic) cheers sunnyAK
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                  • some more [br][link={e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5088.jpg][img:width=500&height=375]{e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5088_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5089.jpg][img:width=500&height=375]{e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5089_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5090.jpg][img:width=500&height=375]{e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5090_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5091.jpg][img:width=500&height=375]{e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5091_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5092.jpg][img:width=500&height=375]{e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5092_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5099.jpg][img:width=500&height=375]{e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5099_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5105.jpg][img:width=500&height=375]{e_FILE}public/1298950417_16400_FT77867_cimg5105_.jpg">[/link][br]
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                    • Guys, knock it off. Back on topic of Am Bullies. Lee answered the question. In HIS experience, he hasn't found a good one. That doesn't mean he looked hard or even cared to when he had the dogs he did. The guy has an opinion. Case closed.
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                      • heres some more pics[br][link={e_FILE}public/1298958002_16400_FT77867_cimg5113.jpg][img:width=500&height=375]{e_FILE}public/1298958002_16400_FT77867_cimg5113_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1298958002_16400_FT77867_cimg5145.jpg][img:width=500&height=375]{e_FILE}public/1298958002_16400_FT77867_cimg5145_.jpg">[/link][br][br][link={e_FILE}public/1298958002_16400_FT77867_cimg5117.jpg][img:width=500&height=375]{e_FILE}public/1298958002_16400_FT77867_cimg5117_.jpg">[/link][br]
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                        • nice pictures cawkazn..
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                          • nice Bullies, you know that prong collar is on wrong right?
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                            • My female is only 14 weeks old, so I can not comment to much on her temperament right now. having said that, form what I observed in the last 6 weeks that she's been with us, her fight drive is high so is her prey drive. Will keep playing with her using flirt pole and rugs to test her drive, until she is old enough to be tested in PP.
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                              • cawkazn wrote ... "why does every thread on this forum turn into an argument. a battle of who has the most dog knowledge. like that douchebag platz." This is true with Most threads on any forum ~if there is discussion then it tends to lead to an argument...Reason being is Everyone has had a different experience with what they know and have formed an opinion from that. I have been here for a looong time...In multiple names and let me say that the knowledge from Platz is missed here...And needed!.... Newbies and people with-out hands On breed experience should really be careful on burning bridges with breeders and trainers who are willing to sit here and offer help!
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                                • hey cawkazn, that is a nice picture of you and your dog in the desert. which desert is that, california?? coming to think of it, i don't think i enjoy anything more than a long hike in the wilderness with my dog. can't wait for my girls to be old enough to start the long challenging hikes :)
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                                  • [quote1299037982=davidfitness83] nice Bullies, you know that prong collar is on wrong right? [/quote1299037982] how is the prong collar wrong? too loose? thanks for liking the pics, my fav is the first one i posted. yes its in the california desert. that was an all day hike, we hike for about 5 hours. luckily we hiked along a stream so theres plenty of water for my dogs most of the trip. as for platz, the guy was very knowledgeable i agree with that. being knowledgeable doesn't give you the right to act the way he did.
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                                    • thanks. can you let me know when you have the chance where i can find that trail? i'd love to take my girl there...
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                                      • Hikes are awesome I wish I had a trail to take my dogs. There's one near me but it's full of people and ticks. The prong collar is too low on the neck, if your dog is still pulling with it, it could really hurt it's neck with it. The prong collar should be worn tight and much higher. Now if your dog feels the click of the collar and stops pulling then it's fine. If yor dog pulls like nothing is on it's neck then it's not good for the throat.
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                                        • they dont pull much with the prong collar, quick jerk puts them back in line. i had it loose because their neck is loose and wrinkly and it gets caught and stuff and just seemed way too tight
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                                          • where in socal are u located castanha? there are many places to go, i like to really get out into the middle of nowhere so i can let my dogs roam free safely.
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                                            • For me I link the lead to the harness itself. This way when the dog pulls he doesn't injure his neck from a collar. That's the whole purpose of using the harness with these and other bulldog types. You have American Bullies these dogs are strong dogs and don't know their own power. If they see something that excites them they will pull hard and quick without notice.
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                                              • JMO but not exercising your dogs for extended periods and then taking them on 5 hour hikes in the desert with poorly fitted prong collars is almost comedically cruel and weird on many levels. Like you're doing everything wrong and it's hard to know where to begin. Again, JMO.
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                                                • You should get a harness like this : It is custome fitted, very comfortable and the dog gets to pull freely as if he was wearing a weight pull harness.
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                                                  • Well I guess the point of a prong collar would be he is trying to stop them from pulling? Harnesses encourage pulling. Really I think a normal collar should be enough if you know how to get a dogs attention and get your point across.
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                                                    • [quote1299209815=Tonedog] Well I guess the point of a prong collar would be he is trying to stop them from pulling? Harnesses encourage pulling. Really I think a normal collar should be enough if you know how to get a dogs attention and get your point across. [/quote1299209815] can i walk 1 with a normal collar, yes. Can I walk 3 of them with a normal collar, yes but its not easy. The prong collar makes keeping them in control much easier, cause if they get out of line, I can correct them with it. I love my dogs but they are not my entire life. I work alot and have other hobbies of mine. I have not put in the time and effort to have my dogs obedience levels to that of a PP dog. They listen pretty darn good, but I do not have them to extreme stop on a dime type obedience. try walking 3 of them at once, and when they see another dog, cat, squirrel, or whatever, they pull. the prong collar enable me to correct them and walk 3 of them at once 1 handed. when i get to my secret spots, i unleash them. the spiked harness is really old, i got it when i first got my female 5 yrs ago, cause i thought it was "cool", she runs through the brush really fast and gets scratches on her chest, i tried it out on her that day to offer some "protection" to her chest area as for walking them I dont get to take them out much, so when I do I make the most of it. your comments here and in my other thread seem like somewhat of a attack for a lack of a better word. stating if you were in my shoes you wouldnt have gotten dogs, may be true, but hsit happens and I did not intentionally get to where i am today and have gone through a lot just to be able to keep my dogs. so if you dont got nothing nice to say keep your thoughts to yourself. thank you.
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                                                      • I'm not going out of my way to attack you, in fact I was very reluctant to and didn't want to but the bottom line is - that sucks, and I'm just hoping my "attack" can encourage you to alter your situation.
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                                                        • Practical obedience is something that Americans lack.
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                                                          • to answer your question cawkazn, i am located in Los Angeles. I too love to take my dog to the most remote locations and let her be free. the desert is great for that, so are the mountains. With my previous dog, I have been on 10-12 hours hikes in great locations where nobody was around. When my current puppy reaches the right age, we will start doing does long hikes again. So, please feel free to let me know of some remote trails you may know of. Thanks.
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                                                            • [quote1299302572=Tonedog] I'm not going out of my way to attack you, in fact I was very reluctant to and didn't want to but the bottom line is - that sucks, and I'm just hoping my "attack" can encourage you to alter your situation. [/quote1299302572] im working on it! sorry if i took it the wrong way. It has been extremely hard to be able to keep my dogs on my previous income.
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                                                              • [quote1299302722=Castanha] to answer your question cawkazn, i am located in Los Angeles. I too love to take my dog to the most remote locations and let her be free. the desert is great for that, so are the mountains. With my previous dog, I have been on 10-12 hours hikes in great locations where nobody was around. When my current puppy reaches the right age, we will start doing does long hikes again. So, please feel free to let me know of some remote trails you may know of. Thanks. [/quote1299302722] well LA is quite far from me, i would look at going to national forest areas if you have any close by. another thing I do is use google maps to find remote locations. I than scout those places out until I end up adding a new spot.
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                                                                • Well one thing we can agree on is taking your dogs out in the remote wilderness is awesome. Really what it's all about as far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't even want dogs if I wasn't able to get out in the sticks with them. The wilderness and dogs go hand in hand for me and sounds like you two are the same.
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                                                                  • yup! i had a thought on working a bully as a PP dog. now if the dog happens to have the right drive and temperament i think the dog could do it easily. you figure the dog may be short and stocky and may not be as athletic as a leggier dog, but im sure the bully can run faster and is more agile than a human. and strong and powerfull enough to dispatch a human in a short amount of time thus not requiring much stamina. [br][img:width=400&height=320]{e_FILE}public/1299344278_16400_FT77867_azul.jpg">
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                                                                    • [quote1299351274=cawkazn] I wanted to start an american bully thread. and get everyones thoughts and opinions on them, good/bad and everything in between. [/quote1299351274] My honest opinion is I don't like them. People took a perfectly good dog like the American Pit Bull Terrier and ruined it with 1) making sloppy fat dogs 2) wide low to the ground dogs and 3) freakishly big useless dogs. Hopefully everyone spades and neuters their Bullies.
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                                                                      • Most Bullies are indeed junk, but don't right off the possibility just because most can't deliver. Most Neapolitans can't deliver on the breed's hype and history IMO, but I am still open to the idea. I may personally prefer a more well rounded athlete and more drive than most bullies could ever dream of having, but that doesn't mean that all of them are junk. I have seen a rare few that weren't all bad and that had SOME glimmer of hope. Unfortunately, the biggest problem is the people involved. Most people that THINK their dogs will protect really don't have any idea...so this means one would have to test the dogs themself. Also, let's not forget that Lucero's Jaws actually came from an unregistered AmStaff...which one could argue to be very similar to the larger and taller "bullies." The worst ones are going to be the ones that are overdone and short. A thick dog though can be hard to hurt, as they can be rather durable.
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                                                                        • cawkazn, yes, i often go to angeles crest national forest. that is the best spot for remote hikes that is near LA, only 30 minutes drive. i've also been in your San Bernardino mountains very often, and waiting for my girl to get older before taking her there. i'll check google maps and see how it works. thanks
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                                                                          • [quote1299378971=cawkazn] [quote1299209815=Tonedog] Well I guess the point of a prong collar would be he is trying to stop them from pulling? Harnesses encourage pulling. Really I think a normal collar should be enough if you know how to get a dogs attention and get your point across. [/quote1299209815] can i walk 1 with a normal collar, yes. Can I walk 3 of them with a normal collar, yes but its not easy. The prong collar makes keeping them in control much easier, cause if they get out of line, I can correct them with it. I love my dogs but they are not my entire life. I work alot and have other hobbies of mine. I have not put in the time and effort to have my dogs obedience levels to that of a PP dog. They listen pretty darn good, but I do not have them to extreme stop on a dime type obedience. try walking 3 of them at once, and when they see another dog, cat, squirrel, or whatever, they pull. the prong collar enable me to correct them and walk 3 of them at once 1 handed. when i get to my secret spots, i unleash them. the spiked harness is really old, i got it when i first got my female 5 yrs ago, cause i thought it was "cool", she runs through the brush really fast and gets scratches on her chest, i tried it out on her that day to offer some "protection" to her chest area as for walking them I dont get to take them out much, so when I do I make the most of it. your comments here and in my other thread seem like somewhat of a attack for a lack of a better word. stating if you were in my shoes you wouldnt have gotten dogs, may be true, but hsit happens and I did not intentionally get to where i am today and have gone through a lot just to be able to keep my dogs. so if you dont got nothing nice to say keep your thoughts to yourself. thank you. [/quote1299378971] I can dig it. I'm a dog lover but I am also a working man. I work 9-11 hours a day so sometimes I can't walk the dogs as mush as I'd like too. Dog food and vet trips ain't cheao. Mans gotta earn to survive. And yes when I hit the woods we make the best of it. We will walk an hour and then take a break for about 15 minutes. Then hit the trail for another hour and a half and then take another 15-20 minute break. And so on and so on. I also understand why you have a prong collar even thought I do not use one. I hike in an area where there are 'coons, rabbits,goats, deer 'yotes and, from what I have heard, wild cats, mountain lions and a few odd wild hogs. I can put the brakes on two dogs if I have to but I doubt if I could hold three or more dogs that are making a run at a rabbit that has run across a trail. I think I might take a short hike this Sunday. Those pics got me ready to hit the trails.
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                                                                            • This link gives several of the reasons I'm not a fan of the American Bully. Too many dumbasses that have no idea what they're doing breeding them... http://www.workingpitbull.com/BuyerBeware.html
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                                                                              • [quote1299471485=davidfitness83] My dog would be considered xxl due to this specifications, most of his siblings are standard bullies. However he is pretty tall, I think he has a slight ressamblance to a mastiff but like I said earlier all the dogs in his pedigree are show dogs therefore limiting his ability. [/quote1299471485] i understand what you are saying and agree with you but i wouldnt cut him short just because of that. if you tested him out and he did his job, regardless of breed or pedigree, if the dog is doing his job, hes doing his job.
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                                                                                • [quote1299523329=cawkazn] [quote1299471485=davidfitness83] My dog would be considered xxl due to this specifications, most of his siblings are standard bullies. However he is pretty tall, I think he has a slight ressamblance to a mastiff but like I said earlier all the dogs in his pedigree are show dogs therefore limiting his ability. [/quote1299471485] I have tested him in a way, he doesn't have a mouth to tug. Maybe the dog respects me too much but he lacks biting power. The dog doesn't have great stamina and he is also not the most agile dog. I didn't have a decoy come out and try to attack me to see if he can do the job. BUt from simple observation on basic acitivities I don't think he qualifies for a good working. I also got his hips tested and they did not score so well, he is more of a great beast friend household pet who looks intimidating but that cannot excel if I needed him to lol We love him and that's all that matters, but he is no working dog and I have yet to see an American Bully built to the ABKC standard that can perform as well as a working mastiff and bullbreed cross. I love the American BUlly for what they are, great companions and great pets. If I need a dog to deter intruders and protect me from a wild beast I am not going to count on my dog to do that job lol i understand what you are saying and agree with you but i wouldnt cut him short just because of that. if you tested him out and he did his job, regardless of breed or pedigree, if the dog is doing his job, hes doing his job. [/quote1299523329]
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                                                                                  • I have tested him in a way, he doesn't have a mouth to tug. Maybe the dog respects me too much but he lacks biting power. The dog doesn't have great stamina and he is also not the most agile dog. I didn't have a decoy come out and try to attack me to see if he can do the job. BUt from simple observation on basic acitivities I don't think he qualifies for a good working. I also got his hips tested and they did not score so well, he is more of a great beast friend household pet who looks intimidating but that cannot excel if I needed him to lol We love him and that's all that matters, but he is no working dog and I have yet to see an American Bully built to the ABKC standard that can perform as well as a working mastiff and bullbreed cross. I love the American BUlly for what they are, great companions and great pets. If I need a dog to deter intruders and protect me from a wild beast I am not going to count on my dog to do that job lol
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                                                                                    • I didn't have a decoy come out and try to attack me to see if he can do the job I have always wanted to do that, like just have a guy in a full suit break into the yard, and see what they would do. i know they bark their ass off on the otherside of the fence but if someone came in would they actually bite, or just jump around and bark? a friend of mine has 2 dogs, 1 is a xl bully, and the other is an apbt. I dont know exactly what breeds are in them as they were both strays that he found. anyways, he has never taught them any protection work etc. and the dogs are only about a yr old. some one broke into his yard and both dogs attacked, he heard some noise went outside, yelled at his dogs to stop and the man ran off.
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                                                                                      • [quote1299554163=Castanha] to answer your question cawkazn, i am located in Los Angeles. I too love to take my dog to the most remote locations and let her be free. the desert is great for that, so are the mountains. With my previous dog, I have been on 10-12 hours hikes in great locations where nobody was around. When my current puppy reaches the right age, we will start doing does long hikes again. So, please feel free to let me know of some remote trails you may know of. Thanks. [/quote1299554163] i heard san pedro has some hiking areas by the beach?
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                                                                                          • I know the owner of both dogs, I personally talk to her on another board. She is finding an avenue to give her dogs a workout. Knuckles and Victor are some really nice looking dogs, Knuckles is my favorite XXL in the Bully world. I can ask her if you hav any questions about her dogs, I think she does this with her dogs more as a game than reallistically hoping that her dogs will do something.
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                                                                                            • very athletic bully, first part of the vid is kinda lame but at 46 seconds in, and also at 1:20. http://www.thebullyhouse.net/kanospage.html the dog is bully, but correctly built. 90 lbs. i would like to see bullies headed this way.
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                                                                                              • They are going to break some teeth. Bad bite promotion.
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                                                                                                • good point
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                                                                                                  • What do you meant they are going to break some teeth?
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                                                                                                    • Promoting a dog to hang and use its front teeth to grip in a bite causes strain on the canines. A lot of dogs that are taught to bite like this break their canines. The sleeve bites are better, but the pillow bites and the "spring pole" bites are junk. The first fellow has the bite pillow sideways and upside down, making it almost impossible for the dog to get a full bite.
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                                                                                                        Take a moment to browse one of my favorite websites dedicated to big dogs. BigDogmom
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                                                                                                        American Bully
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                                                                                                        Well then some of the best bandogs in the country that are being produced by Am Bully foundation didn't happen, lol. I agree most are ridiculous, but I know a few lines that have stayed the course from their original purpose. I have worked some personally. I have also heard some remarkable anecdotes about their feats. IMO, these are Am Bullies, not those pseudo EBs.
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